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Stand/lift
« on: July 02, 2019, 06:04:35 AM »

I’m looking at buying a lift, anyone have experience or advice here?  The one I want is
https://www.apluslift.com/products/new-apluslift-mt1500x-1500lb-air-op-motorcycle-lift-table-with-side-extension
The install instruction tell you in bold red print about 10 times throughout the instruction to NEVER RIDE ONTO THE LIFT, ALWAYS PUSH IT.  If I get it it will take my regular parking spot in the garage, so I’ll have to drive up on it. I’m assuming the abundance caution is just for their insurance reasons.
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Re: Stand/lift
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2019, 08:01:32 AM »

I think the main reason for that is the platform may be too narrow and if you don't get your foot down just right your now a few inches higher and may tip over.
I should be easy to push the bike up the ramp, secure it than sit on it so you can judge the distance.
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Re: Stand/lift
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2019, 08:34:44 AM »

Can you install a mirror in the garage and angle it in such a way to see how the front tire aligns with the wheel chock?
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Re: Stand/lift
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2019, 09:38:19 AM »

I always ride mine up on the lift, now I also have fairly long legs so reaching down is not an issue.
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Re: Stand/lift
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2019, 09:50:32 AM »

All these table lifts are basically the same (except for Handy, which is made in the US) and are made in China, probably in the same factory.  I have one similar to the pic you posted, its rated for 1,000 lbs. and I've ridden onto the lift for years.  As long as you have the side pieces installed (so you have a place to put your feet) you'll be fine.  I imagine the admonishment about pushing the bike onto the lift is a liability thing.  Trying to push a 900 lb. bike up the ramp by yourself is going to be more precarious than riding onto the lift, IMO. 

Also, I initially had the wheel clamp type chock for the front wheel; however, after riding up, you have to get off the bike, continue to balance it with one hand, while tightening the clamp with the other hand.  To make it easier, I mounted my Bike Pro chock to the lift, so now when I ride up, the wheel is locked in place so I can just get off of the bike.  BTW, you're going to love having a table lift...so easy to detail and service your bike.  Your knees will really appreciate it.       
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Re: Stand/lift
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2019, 09:55:24 AM »

Trying to push a 900 lb. bike up the ramp by yourself is going to be more precarious than riding onto the lift.

Spot on.
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Re: Stand/lift
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2019, 10:16:50 AM »

The problem is having somewhere to put you feet down while riding up on to the lift. Or you could sink it in....
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Re: Stand/lift
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2019, 10:23:38 AM »

The problem is having somewhere to put you feet down while riding up on to the lift. Or you could sink it in....

Wow. That’s cool. I want that garage
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Re: Stand/lift
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2019, 11:06:07 AM »

I have the same lift....it works great!

I considered sinking it into the floor...but.....did not want to lose 6" of  lift height or the use of the spot for 4 wheel vehicles in some positions.

As far as riding the bikes up.....I always do. Once I had a bit of moisture on one boot, slipped a bit and very nearly had a mishap. My solution was to get some "skate board sandpaper stick-on grippy stuff" and put it on the side ramps and back half of the sides....basically anywhere your feet may touch down. I also ran a strip up the center where the tires contact.

I did not have the room to store it on the floor and get both bikes and two daily drivers in the garage.....so I stood it up. A couple pieces of angle iron lag bolted to the floor joists above, and a cheap chain fall and it stands along the wall taking up very little room. When hoisting it up I put a piece of upside-down rubber backed carpet under the feet to help is slide on the floor.

I just made some brackets to store the ramps on the wall also.....not painted, installed or photoed yet
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Re: Stand/lift
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2019, 11:37:01 AM »

I have the same lift....it works great!

I considered sinking it into the floor...but.....did not want to lose 6" of  lift height or the use of the spot for 4 wheel vehicles in some positions.

As far as riding the bikes up.....I always do. Once I had a bit of moisture on one boot, slipped a bit and very nearly had a mishap. My solution was to get some "skate board sandpaper stick-on grippy stuff" and put it on the side ramps and back half of the sides....basically anywhere your feet may touch down. I also ran a strip up the center where the tires contact.

I did not have the room to store it on the floor and get both bikes and two daily drivers in the garage.....so I stood it up. A couple pieces of angle iron lag bolted to the floor joists above, and a cheap chain fall and it stands along the wall taking up very little room. When hoisting it up I put a piece of upside-down rubber backed carpet under the feet to help is slide on the floor.

I just made some brackets to store the ramps on the wall also.....not painted, installed or photoed yet
That is slick. What’s your experience with the front wheel clamp that comes with the lift?  Does it work well for single person loading or would you recommend something like the CONDOR PS-1500 Pit Trailer-Stop?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B3JZWDQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_8N3gDb526JXS3
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Re: Stand/lift
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2019, 11:54:34 AM »

That is slick. What’s your experience with the front wheel clamp that comes with the lift?  Does it work well for single person loading or would you recommend something like the CONDOR PS-1500 Pit Trailer-Stop?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B3JZWDQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_8N3gDb526JXS3
I have had no trouble using the front wheel clamp....I have marks that are about 3/4" wider than our tires (my FLHXSE3 and the Wife's FLD)...and with the grip it's safe and easy to do a little maneuvering. I get the front tire in.....Shut off engine, leave in gear.....out with the jiffy stand.....let lean to the left.....put on front straps ...
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Re: Stand/lift
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2019, 05:35:31 PM »

The problem is having somewhere to put you feet down while riding up on to the lift. Or you could sink it in....

Wish I'd thought about doing this when I built my house...
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Re: Stand/lift
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2019, 05:46:40 PM »

Wish I'd thought about doing this when I built my house...

My garage is 65yrs old....I had someone cut the concrete and dig down a bit. Took 2 guys a few hours and some cement. the next day I slid the lift in the hole. It's never too late.
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Re: Stand/lift
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2019, 07:14:41 PM »

My garage is 65yrs old....I had someone cut the concrete and dig down a bit. Took 2 guys a few hours and some cement. the next day I slid the lift in the hole. It's never too late.

What a great idea. Do you think my landlord would mind?  Haha
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« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2019, 08:46:07 PM »

What a great idea. Do you think my landlord would mind?  Haha

LOL....yeah maybe
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Re: Stand/lift
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2019, 11:45:57 AM »

Just fill up the void with concrete when you leave.
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Re: Stand/lift
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2019, 11:47:18 AM »

Just fill up the void with concrete when you leave.

Not a landlord, are you?  Haha
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Re: Stand/lift
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2019, 01:04:43 PM »

You could build a wooden platform on both sides level with the lift when it is in the down position. I have the 1500lb Titan that has the removable side extensions so I can get off and even put the jiffy stand down if I need.
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« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2019, 01:42:09 PM »

I was making reference to "reasonable" landlords, a small group for sure.
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Re: Stand/lift
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2019, 07:44:25 PM »

I have a Handy Lift with side extensions. I didn't like trying to ride up on the lift so I made a 4ft. extension out of plywood & 2x4's. I use the small Handy ramp (the width of the lift) added to the wooden extension & I have no problems riding up on it now. I drilled holes in the Handy ramp & the wooden ramp & I pin them both so it won't kick out. Once the bike is on the lift I pull the 2 carriage bolts & remove the ramps. Yes the plywood ramp takes up a little room in the garage but is well worth it. I ride all my bikes up on it & never worry about driving up on the lift. The CVO Ultra is one heavy bike that now I don't worry about putting it up on the lift.
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Re: Stand/lift
« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2019, 05:06:35 AM »

I have a Handy Lift with side extensions. I didn't like trying to ride up on the lift so I made a 4ft. extension out of plywood & 2x4's. I use the small Handy ramp (the width of the lift) added to the wooden extension & I have no problems riding up on it now. I drilled holes in the Handy ramp & the wooden ramp & I pin them both so it won't kick out. Once the bike is on the lift I pull the 2 carriage bolts & remove the ramps. Yes the plywood ramp takes up a little room in the garage but is well worth it. I ride all my bikes up on it & never worry about driving up on the lift. The CVO Ultra is one heavy bike that now I don't worry about putting it up on the lift.

I’d loved to see a couple pics of you’ve got them.
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Re: Stand/lift
« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2019, 06:31:55 AM »

I’ll try & post some pics later today


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« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2019, 08:03:06 AM »

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Re: Stand/lift
« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2019, 08:10:01 AM »

Oh I see. I was thinking you did something on the sides. I like it. Very handy


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Re: Stand/lift
« Reply #24 on: July 04, 2019, 08:33:28 AM »

With the side extensions I don't need any extra width on the sides. I can ride up CVO Ultra & get the wheel into the wheel vise & then get off (bike on side stand) & tighten up the wheel vise. Easy peasy & no worries!
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« Reply #25 on: July 05, 2019, 10:06:38 PM »

With the side extensions I don't need any extra width on the sides. I can ride up CVO Ultra & get the wheel into the wheel vise & then get off (bike on side stand) & tighten up the wheel vise. Easy peasy & no worries!

So the extra wood ramp is just helping with the angle to ride (or push) up?
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« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2019, 10:51:59 PM »

So the extra wood ramp is just helping with the angle to ride (or push) up?
That's exactly correct. It makes it easy to ride the bike on the lift.
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« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2019, 01:24:39 PM »

So the extra wood ramp is just helping with the angle to ride (or push) up?
I made one for when I put my Wife's lowered FLD up on the lift.....'else it'll catch.
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« Reply #28 on: July 07, 2019, 07:29:06 AM »

I have a Handy Lift with side extensions. I didn't like trying to ride up on the lift so I made a 4ft. extension out of plywood & 2x4's. I use the small Handy ramp (the width of the lift) added to the wooden extension & I have no problems riding up on it now. I drilled holes in the Handy ramp & the wooden ramp & I pin them both so it won't kick out. Once the bike is on the lift I pull the 2 carriage bolts & remove the ramps. Yes the plywood ramp takes up a little room in the garage but is well worth it. I ride all my bikes up on it & never worry about driving up on the lift. The CVO Ultra is one heavy bike that now I don't worry about putting it up on the lift.

I did something very similar to what you did. I found the angle of the ramp was too steep. I have the side extensions too. I placed safety tape on the lift due to the slickness of the surface.
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