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Re: More Bad News...HD Lays Off 40
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2019, 02:23:48 AM »

x3.
We also do not go out of our way to visit HD stores when we travel anymore with the rare exception. No reason to.

Never did.  Why would I?



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Re: More Bad News...HD Lays Off 40
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2019, 06:09:21 AM »

Never did.  Why would I?



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The people we rode with on trips 15-20 years ago collected dealer pogs & t shirts.  We never did collect pogs, now a lot of these folks collect poker chips & we do not collect those either.
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Re: More Bad News...HD Lays Off 40
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2019, 09:45:36 AM »

The people we rode with on trips 15-20 years ago collected dealer pogs & t shirts.  We never did collect pogs, now a lot of these folks collect poker chips & we do not collect those either.

Now days, unless you need something right away there is no need to go to the dealer. You can order it all on line and have it delivered in just a few days.
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Re: More Bad News...HD Lays Off 40
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2019, 11:24:25 AM »

Now days, unless you need something right away there is no need to go to the dealer. You can order it all on line and have it delivered in just a few days.

True.  Internet changed the world.

We have changed around on groups we ride with since the start of "our Harley years."  Used to ride with a group that could not pass a HD dealership without stopping.  Had to allow a couple of hours extra bike time on trips because they had to have a pog & a shirt, then it was a poker chip & a t shirt.  At first we were pleasant about it.  After a couple of years of being bored & after hours & hours wasted at dealers watching folks point at stuff & say "Lookit!" , we quit stopping at Every Freaking Dealership on the road.  Instead that time is now better spent riding or drinking an icy cold beverage at a destination
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Re: More Bad News...HD Lays Off 40
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2019, 11:29:44 AM »

Well, kinda. Back then. At least one bike would break down along the way.

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Re: More Bad News...HD Lays Off 40
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2019, 11:30:48 AM »

Now days, unless you need something right away there is no need to go to the dealer. You can order it all on line and have it delivered in just a few days.
And yet we wonder why mom and pop shops regardless of the type of business keep closing up.....

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Re: More Bad News...HD Lays Off 40
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2019, 11:44:02 AM »

What I've experienced recently is most dealers stock very few parts except for the most common stuff, and most parts requests end up in prepaying (full price) for the part then another return trip to pick up the item when it arrives.  Since I have the parts books and an internet connection, I can get my part cheaper and faster without leaving the house.  Unless I call the dealer and confirm they have the part in stock AND it is an urgent same-day need I don't bother with the local dealers anymore.
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Re: More Bad News...HD Lays Off 40
« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2019, 12:05:28 PM »

Since I have the parts books and an internet connection, I can get my part cheaper and faster without leaving the house.  Unless I call the dealer and confirm they have the part in stock AND it is an urgent same-day need I don't bother with the local dealers anymore.

Bingo!

And this ties into the other thread that the "Mom N Pop" Harley dealerships are few and far between. Most are part of that auto conglomeration.
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Re: More Bad News...HD Lays Off 40
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2019, 12:53:39 PM »

And Harley offers Slim-Shirts.....well that just eliminated about 90% the HD cliental, me included.
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Re: More Bad News...HD Lays Off 40
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2019, 02:31:41 PM »

And yet we wonder why mom and pop shops regardless of the type of business keep closing up.....

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Not truly the case when it comes to H-D.... Corporate doesn't want "Mom & Pop" stores anymore... they want the "Mega/Super Walmart" dealership/stores. As Mom/Pop retired or where sold new owners were required to build dealerships the way corporate wanted them (Super Walmart). However I think this business models is backfiring on them since many have stated it's not only about getting parts online (easier/cheaper) it's about the attitude and in some cases lack of knowledge of the product that has been/is found at these super stores. :(

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Re: More Bad News...HD Lays Off 40
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2019, 02:35:34 PM »

And Harley offers Slim-Shirts.....well that just eliminated about 90% the HD cliental, me included.
Yea... WTF!!!! I know a lot of the P&A we purchase are more about style/looks along w/some of the motorclothes… but hell they are contradicting one of the core motto's of riders... "Ride to Eat". Can't do that and fit in nothing "slim". :D :D

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Re: More Bad News...HD Lays Off 40
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2019, 03:17:06 PM »

Not truly the case when it comes to H-D.... Corporate doesn't want "Mom & Pop" stores anymore... they want the "Mega/Super Walmart" dealership/stores. As Mom/Pop retired or where sold new owners were required to build dealerships the way corporate wanted them (Super Walmart). However I think this business models is backfiring on them since many have stated it's not only about getting parts online (easier/cheaper) it's about the attitude and in some cases lack of knowledge of the product that has been/is found at these super stores. :(

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I think Harley see's it's self as a premium brand, like Lexus or Mercedes Benz. At the same time they want to maintain a little of the bad boy image, good for business.

In reality I don't think it works. Every Harley enthusiast I know liked it better before. When the dealerships were like a second home. A place to hang, have a cup of coffee, talk with the parts guy, check out bikes, see riding buddies. The focus was on American motorcycles and riding.

Now they might as well be Hyundi dealers. No need explaining, we all know what Im talking about. It's all about one thing $$$. Nothing more or less. Sad really!

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Re: More Bad News...HD Lays Off 40
« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2019, 03:31:33 PM »

Yes the lack of intimate product knowledge throughout the staff and attitude to boot.  Starting to beat a dead horse but the taste is still in my mouth.
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Re: More Bad News...HD Lays Off 40
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2019, 05:47:57 PM »

Yes the lack of intimate product knowledge throughout the staff and attitude to boot.  Starting to beat a dead horse but the taste is still in my mouth.
Guess it's only a issue to those of us that have enjoyed the past. Those that started riding Harleys within the last 10 to 15 years have only known the big fancy car dealership like stores. Designed to be family friendly and upscale. Harley wants clean cut professionals to feel comfortable walking into a Harley dealership. More interested in a status symbol than riding.

At the same time, dealership owners went from true enthusiast that rode, joined customers on rides to auto dealership chains.

Sorry, I'm getting back in the weeds. I will say this, without Harleys past, Harleys hard core supporters, clubs, you would not have Harley today. Harley is to a large degree living off it's past, off it's image.



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Re: More Bad News...HD Lays Off 40
« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2019, 08:56:19 PM »

I’ve been a motorcycle enthusiast since the late 60’s, wanted a HD for years but could never justify one. Bought my first HD in 1995, a Fatboy. In 1996 bought my first HD bagger, road king. Over the years I bought 7 new HD's from one dealer and 1 from my home state, horse traded a few here and there. I’ve got the one I like now and while I do have money burning a hole in my pocket for another I’ve refrained.

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