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Do you rat-a-tat-tat-tat?
« on: April 02, 2007, 09:04:54 AM »

I was hoping the new motor, 07 110", would have a quieter top-end than the '99 I've got. Nope!

Especially annoying is the 1,800 - 2,400 RPM range. All I hear is rat-a-tat-tat rat-a-tat-tat bouncing off of the fairing and right up to my ears. Peeses me off I say.

I saw in another thread an issue of rocker box clearance on the 110's, and Dandy Don's reference to that possibly being the issue.

Here's a couple of quetions for y'all.....

1) Do you hear it too?
2) What RPM range is it the worst?
3) Have you found a way to eliminate it other than louder speaker / pipe combinations?
4) Should I just suck it up and go away?

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Re: Do you rat-a-tat-tat-tat?
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2007, 09:19:39 AM »

I had lots of noises that were lubricated away when I switched to Mob 1.  I still have Harley noises.

Syn 3 didn't seem to lubricate as well and the little gremlins with the hammers were throughout the beast.  If you haven't made a change it would be an inexpensive and quick way to possibly reduce the annoying noises without getting deeper into the motor issues. IMHO
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Re: Do you rat-a-tat-tat-tat?
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2007, 09:25:10 AM »

I had lots of noises that were lubricated away when I switched to Mob 1.  I still have Harley noises.

Syn 3 didn't seem to lubricate as well and the little gremlins with the hammers were throughout the beast.  If you haven't made a change it would be an inexpensive and quick way to possibly reduce the annoying noises without getting deeper into the motor issues. IMHO

I switched to Amsoil at 500 miles. Still got them rat-a-tat-tatters.

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Re: Do you rat-a-tat-tat-tat?
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2007, 09:31:59 AM »

I switched to Amsoil at 500 miles. Still got them rat-a-tat-tatters.

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OK, looks like you're going diving, bummer.
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Re: Do you rat-a-tat-tat-tat?
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2007, 10:51:55 AM »

I have them too, right around the 2000-2500 range and I am running Mobil1.
I read a while back on this site that one fella had the rocker arms banging the
covers on his 110.  Not too pleasant to hear that.
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Re: Do you rat-a-tat-tat-tat?
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2007, 10:57:56 AM »

Not having the 110 I've not had to chase this (or the overheating or.... well, never mind).  But it'd seem this clearance issue is something you could feel or hear directly as well.  While the engine is still cool enough to do so lay a hand on the rocker boxes and see if you feel the contact resonate through the box.  Alternatively might try laying a stick, long socket extension or other solid object (hey, even a stethoscope) on the rocker box and put an ear against the other end of it.  If there's rocker arm contact it ought to sound like a chorus line bringing its heels down.
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Re: Do you rat-a-tat-tat-tat?
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2007, 11:06:14 AM »

Not having the 110 I've not had to chase this (or the overheating or.... well, never mind).  But it'd seem this clearance issue is something you could feel or hear directly as well.  While the engine is still cool enough to do so lay a hand on the rocker boxes and see if you feel the contact resonate through the box.  Alternatively might try laying a stick, long socket extension or other solid object (hey, even a stethoscope) on the rocker box and put an ear against the other end of it.  If there's rocker arm contact it ought to sound like a chorus line bringing its heels down.

Just the way it goes around here. When I had the box tops off doing the 12-point thing, the clearance issue had not surfaced. Not two weeks after it all gets put back together, the news comes out. Figures.

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Re: Do you rat-a-tat-tat-tat?
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2007, 11:08:01 AM »

That's got to be enough to make one say a bad word or three.  Off and apart and never a reason to think to turn them upside down and really look.  Ouch....

Hey, at least the tank comes off easy on these things.
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Re: Do you rat-a-tat-tat-tat?
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2007, 11:15:18 AM »

That's got to be enough to make one say a bad word or three.  Off and apart and never a reason to think to turn them upside down and really look.  Ouch....

Hey, at least the tank comes off easy on these things.

But Daaadddddddd........

I don't want tooooooooo..............
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Re: Do you rat-a-tat-tat-tat?
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2007, 11:29:37 AM »

But Daaadddddddd........

I don't want tooooooooo..............

There's got to be some way to rationalize this.  Surely there's an evening where Pinkie has some nasty Jacqueline Suzanne (sic?) type movie on or something and a little "guy time" is mandated?  Or.... maybe......   you just need a little more practice polishing those bolt heads  :nixweiss: ?
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Re: Do you rat-a-tat-tat-tat?
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2007, 11:35:12 AM »

I was hoping the new motor, 07 110", would have a quieter top-end than the '99 I've got. Nope!

Especially annoying is the 1,800 - 2,400 RPM range. All I hear is rat-a-tat-tat rat-a-tat-tat bouncing off of the fairing and right up to my ears. Peeses me off I say.

I saw in another thread an issue of rocker box clearance on the 110's, and Dandy Don's reference to that possibly being the issue.

Here's a couple of quetions for y'all.....

1) Do you hear it too?
2) What RPM range is it the worst?
3) Have you found a way to eliminate it other than louder speaker / pipe combinations
4) Should I just suck it up and go away?

Chief


Same as you. Mine has SE HD springs. I ask the dealer, he pulled it apart, 3200 miles no scars on the underside of the boxes, IE no clearance issues..
Again my dealer and MOCO going the extra mile to satisify their customers.

They could have just said its normal, but they pulled it apart to check. :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Do you rat-a-tat-tat-tat?
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2007, 11:39:48 AM »

Same as you. Mine has SE HD springs. I ask the dealer, he pulled it apart, 3200 miles no scars on the underside of the boxes, IE no clearance issues..
Again my dealer and MOCO going the extra mile to satisify their customers.

They could have just said its normal, but they pulled it apart to check. :2vrolijk_21:

That's the real pain in the arse with problems like this.  Anecdotal reports of several.  Reports that are obviously credible.  So you really do know it's going on.  Then your ears and brain start messing with you.  Sooner or later you've got to check just to avoid the creepie crawlies every time you ride.
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Re: Do you rat-a-tat-tat-tat?
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2007, 08:01:51 PM »

I was hoping the new motor, 07 110", would have a quieter top-end than the '99 I've got. Nope!

Especially annoying is the 1,800 - 2,400 RPM range. All I hear is rat-a-tat-tat rat-a-tat-tat bouncing off of the fairing and right up to my ears. Peeses me off I say.

I saw in another thread an issue of rocker box clearance on the 110's, and Dandy Don's reference to that possibly being the issue.

Here's a couple of quetions for y'all.....

1) Do you hear it too?
2) What RPM range is it the worst?
3) Have you found a way to eliminate it other than louder speaker / pipe combinations?
4) Should I just suck it up and go away?

Chief
 i have the same noice. i have not asked harley about it . As soon as my bars are done i will bring the bike in and ask about the problem . My bike was del in Oct so I think this could be the problem.  Billy
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Re: Do you rat-a-tat-tat-tat?
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2007, 08:30:38 PM »

Chief
 i have the same noice. i have not asked harley about it . As soon as my bars are done i will bring the bike in and ask about the problem . My bike was del in Oct so I think this could be the problem.  Billy

Thanks Billy. I'll be interested in what they have to say. I'm guess ing it's going to be something like "They all do that."

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Re: Do you rat-a-tat-tat-tat?
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2007, 08:58:08 PM »

My '06 does it too, sounds like its coming from top end.
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