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Speedo/6th gear light on/off
« on: August 26, 2023, 02:37:51 PM »

Good Afternoon,
Heading home from the uk's biggest Harley Rally (Thunder in the Glens) we noticed that when in 6th gear and over 70mph the gear light would go off along with the speedo going to zero ?? the amber engine management light would also light up.
Once we had to slow or speed up i noticed this made a impact on this issue, throttle open and light came back along with speedo but as soon as throttle off they went off again?? Nearer home the bike decided to cut out and speedo only came on a few times below 30mph !! Scratching my head here
Any help please?
Thanks in advance guys
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Re: Speedo/6th gear light on/off
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2023, 03:25:59 PM »

Good Afternoon,
Heading home from the uk's biggest Harley Rally (Thunder in the Glens) we noticed that when in 6th gear and over 70mph the gear light would go off along with the speedo going to zero ?? the amber engine management light would also light up.
Once we had to slow or speed up i noticed this made a impact on this issue, throttle open and light came back along with speedo but as soon as throttle off they went off again?? Nearer home the bike decided to cut out and speedo only came on a few times below 30mph !! Scratching my head here
Any help please?
Thanks in advance guys

Hey Tazz, welcome to CVOharley.

If you could provide some details such as year and type of bike, along with codes that you can pull up on your speedo. That would be a great help for someone to help  diagnose over the net.

Sounds like you made it home safely which is always a good thing.

Give us a rundown on Thunder in the Glens when you have the time.
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Re: Speedo/6th gear light on/off
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2023, 04:19:51 PM »

Howdy, Thanks for the welcome  ;D
2013 Harley Davidson Electra Glide Ultra Classic Cvo 110 Screaming Eagle
Not sure where to start finding codes??
Does anyone have a easy step by step guide?
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Re: Speedo/6th gear light on/off
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2023, 05:47:50 PM »

A link  providing info like this is very helpful, really simple once you go thru the process. Take your time and report back.

https://www.fuelmotousa.com/p-29661-harley-trouble-codes.html#!model%3DTOURING%20FLH%2FFLT%20MODELS%7C%7Cmake%3DHARLEY-DAVIDSON

It could also be a loose connection at the battery or ground connection to frame or even battery going/gone bad. I just thru these out there but the codes are a good place to start.

Good luck
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Re: Speedo/6th gear light on/off
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2023, 06:50:59 PM »

Could the speed sensor from the transmission case and clean it. Bet that is your issue
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Re: Speedo/6th gear light on/off
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2023, 11:06:20 AM »

Hi,
Well that link to codes worked so thanks for that.
Codes as follow if someone could help?
P CODES
P0107
P0374
P0501
P0572
Followed by pn31871-11 ??

S CODES
61121
61122
b1155
then pn 68924-07

5p CODE
PN 70733-10

t CODE
pn74740-10

b CODE
c 1094
pn 32836-09a

not sure on what to make of all these codes but since a swopped out my front indicators to custom dynamic indicator/running lights they do flash fast after a few seconds? so maybe this can bring up a code.
main issue as mentioned is the original issue which k
looks like the VSS.
Any further input welcome please

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Re: Speedo/6th gear light on/off
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2023, 03:11:05 PM »

Yeah Tazz you have a few codes.

With front LED’s you need a load equalizer from custom dynamics, this is why your signal lights flash at a high rate.

May I suggest you put factory OEM bulbs back in, check the codes, clear them one by one and take her for a ride, come back and check for codes again. If not install a load equalizer and proceed.

You sure the battery is good? Electrical connections secure, no corrosion? I could go on but will stop here at this time. Do you have the factory service manuals? Are there any more mods or add-ons that you failed to mention?

I know you're concerned with the speedo error but these electrical gremlins are more than just a faulty VSS. And maybe simple too, so proceed methodically.

And last but not least, are you screwing with me?  :drink: fair question for your first post, we have had a few pranksters here, not to mention any names.  :coolblue:

Attach some pictures please



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Re: Speedo/6th gear light on/off
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2023, 04:01:16 PM »

Good advice
i will spend a few hours tomorrow and as you say start at basics
watch this space  ;D
Certainly not messing about buddy so not sure who you ment?
anyway i will go through everything and get back to you
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Re: Speedo/6th gear light on/off
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2023, 08:43:18 AM »

Hi,
Where do i find this plug map sensor? i was going to renew the VSS today but will look at that ground if you could point me in the right direction please  :)
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Re: Speedo/6th gear light on/off
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2023, 03:23:14 PM »

Here we go,
Fitted a load equalizer and cleared codes all ok with that part.
As i had ordered a VSS from Ebay  fitted that and the relevant code has cleared,
took it out for a blast and initially it cut out at the first junction? then proceeded to run along around 2 miles with no apparent issue, on the return the speedo then started cutting out again when i throttled on but then came back once throttled off.
the engine light then came on for a minute then off again.
once i got home i checked codes and nothing relating to VSS but CODE P0374 CKP Sensor Synch Error ALONG WITH CODE b1006 ?? all other codes gone.
i looked at ground wires and connection looks tight ? any other signs to look at? or do i disconnect and clean?
will get a workshop manual sorted asap, but any further help welcome
cheers
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Re: Speedo/6th gear light on/off
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2023, 06:39:29 AM »

Neil, does your engine cut out as in miss / stumble?  Or is your only symptom the speedo quits working? 

Don’t be concerned with the b1006 code for now
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Re: Speedo/6th gear light on/off
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2023, 12:37:51 PM »

HI,
YES IT CUTS OUT AND RUNS ERRATIC BUT ON/OFF ??
The speedo issue only came on/off depending on acceleration throttle open gauge dies throttle off speedo back on ??
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Re: Speedo/6th gear light on/off
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2023, 03:31:45 PM »

UPDATE.....
Removed old Badlands Resistor and now b 1006 cleared.
Took connector to CKP Sensor apart and cleaned contacts then reassembled with Dielectric grease then went for a blast with no fault codes showing.
Just been out again and although the bike is running well i checked codes on return to find the P0374  code showing ?? bike running well with no spluttering or engine management light on.
What do you think ?
Cheers
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Re: Speedo/6th gear light on/off
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2023, 06:40:31 PM »

Crank sensor error.  First free and easy thing to try is to remove and wipe it off.  Hope that in doing so you don't find frightening debris on it.  If you find no frightening debris and after cleaning it the code returns again replace the sensor.
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Re: Speedo/6th gear light on/off
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2023, 06:23:07 PM »

Good advice thanks  :) will get onto it this weekend
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