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Re: Head Gasket
« Reply #30 on: May 30, 2007, 01:06:24 PM »
It's going in on Fri and no parts will be ordered until crank runout is checked. If it's excessive, it's new engine time. If not, we'll do the repairs/mods as previously discussed. Gets me to  thinking. Anyone know if HD has made any changes to new 110 engines to prevent the issues we're having? I've heard of .008" runout on new, unrun engines. How does this resolve anything? They have 07A P/N on Head Gasket now. Fine. What about Rocker Boxes. Are they properly clearanced now? How do I insure that a new motor is actually a new and improve version than the POS motors we have now? Hoist! 8)
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Re: Head Gasket
« Reply #31 on: May 30, 2007, 08:49:43 PM »
anyone have a copy of something official from the MC regarding the head gasket problem?? Service Bull / campaign ?
FAx to 330 630 3393 for me if you do - or post it
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Re: Head Gasket
« Reply #32 on: May 30, 2007, 08:54:21 PM »
Quote from: Hoist on May 30, 2007, 01:06:24 PM
It's going in on Fri and no parts will be ordered until crank runout is checked. If it's excessive, it's new engine time. If not, we'll do the repairs/mods as previously discussed. Gets me to  thinking. Anyone know if HD has made any changes to new 110 engines to prevent the issues we're having? I've heard of .008" runout on new, unrun engines. How does this resolve anything? They have 07A P/N on Head Gasket now. Fine. What about Rocker Boxes. Are they properly clearanced now? How do I insure that a new motor is actually a new and improve version than the POS motors we have now? Hoist! 8)

Howie, have to admit having wondered the same thing relative to the unlucky souls who have suffered engine failures so far.  The only thing that has come to mind would be if a warranty replacement is built for the warranty failure rather than just pulled off the line and VIN stamped.  If it's built to meet a warranty order then, perhaps, the hands building will be doing some tolerance checking that isn't done in more massed production. 

Honestly I think that's doubtful.  I more likely hope is that the failures to date have translated in to tighter tolerance checking for mass production itself.  But it is Harley Davidson.  So who really knows for sure  :nixweiss: .
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Re: Head Gasket
« Reply #33 on: May 31, 2007, 05:29:36 PM »
Quote from: Twolanerider on May 29, 2007, 10:47:50 PM
Here's another visual.  The girls on Bourbon Street with their rotating tassles (or the really gifted ones with counter-rotating tassles).  If you look at them closely and dead on they all have some run out  ??? .
Chief - thanks for the analogy, I just about got it and this one hammered it home  :P.............
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Re: Head Gasket
« Reply #34 on: June 01, 2007, 08:28:15 AM »
Quote from: Smiler on May 31, 2007, 05:29:36 PM
Chief - thanks for the analogy, I just about got it and this one hammered it home  :P.............

I need to give credit where credit is due. Don's tassle reference is much better than my drill bit reference. I bow to the king.
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Re: Head Gasket
« Reply #35 on: June 01, 2007, 09:44:10 AM »
OK gang, off we go! Heading out to the dealer to bring in my Non-Wednesday bike for the head gaskets, rocker box clearancing, crank runout measurement, electronics fixing and maybe some other secret surprises! Probably leaving it stock though! ::) I'll let you guys know how we do. Hoist! 8)
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Re: Head Gasket
« Reply #36 on: June 01, 2007, 10:12:40 AM »
Quote from: Hoist on June 01, 2007, 09:44:10 AM
OK gang, off we go! Heading out to the dealer to bring in my Non-Wednesday bike for the head gaskets, rocker box clearancing, crank runout measurement, electronics fixing and maybe some other secret surprises! Probably leaving it stock though! ::) I'll let you guys know how we do. Hoist! 8)

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Re: Head Gasket
« Reply #37 on: June 01, 2007, 11:43:52 AM »
Quote from: Hoist on June 01, 2007, 09:44:10 AM
OK gang, off we go! Heading out to the dealer to bring in my Non-Wednesday bike for the head gaskets, rocker box clearancing, crank runout measurement, electronics fixing and maybe some other secret surprises! Probably leaving it stock though! ::) I'll let you guys know how we do. Hoist! 8)

Good luck Howie.  Hopefully following the discussions youv'e had them it'll come back completely sorted out this time.  After that, no more issues.  Just ride baby ride  :2vrolijk_21: .
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Re: Head Gasket
« Reply #38 on: June 01, 2007, 01:53:56 PM »
Well, we went over everything. They are ordering and making sure all parts are in hand before I leave the bike. I took it home today and will probably drop it back off on Wednesday. I got a few tips from my new Tuner and have a couple of minor tricks up my sleeve, so stay tuned (no pun intended) for future Dyno Report! I hope it works out as I'm expecting! Hoist! 8)
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Re: Head Gasket
« Reply #39 on: June 01, 2007, 02:12:37 PM »
Keep us posted Howie.  Something tells me I may benefit from your info in the future.  Ya never know.
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Re: Head Gasket
« Reply #40 on: June 01, 2007, 02:29:14 PM »
Quote from: iski on June 01, 2007, 02:12:37 PM
Keep us posted Howie.  Something tells me I may benefit from your info in the future.  Ya never know.

One never knows, does one iski? ;) Hoist! 8)
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Re: Head Gasket
« Reply #41 on: June 01, 2007, 03:04:13 PM »
Quote from: Hoist on June 01, 2007, 02:29:14 PM
One never knows, does one iski? ;) Hoist! 8)

When I was a young whippersnapper, I knew lotsa stuff, Howie.  Not what I thought I knew though & not seasoned enough to know what I did not really know. Not that I really knew anything much, but I sure as hell thought I did.  :confused5:

I read about 110 probs and while not troubled personally but concerned for those that have them and all, I file them away in the Category of Things That Make me Go Hmmmmmmmmmm...?   8)
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Re: Head Gasket
« Reply #42 on: June 01, 2007, 04:25:36 PM »
Quote from: iski on June 01, 2007, 03:04:13 PM
When I was a young whippersnapper, I knew lotsa stuff, Howie.  Not what I thought I knew though & not seasoned enough to know what I did not really know. Not that I really knew anything much, but I sure as hell thought I did.  :confused5:

I read about 110 probs and while not troubled personally but concerned for those that have them and all, I file them away in the Category of Things That Make me Go Hmmmmmmmmmm...?   8)

I am dumb as a box of rocks, but, I know people that know things.
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Re: Head Gasket
« Reply #43 on: June 01, 2007, 04:44:07 PM »
Quote from: iski on June 01, 2007, 03:04:13 PM
When I was a young whippersnapper, I knew lotsa stuff, Howie.  Not what I thought I knew though & not seasoned enough to know what I did not really know. Not that I really knew anything much, but I sure as hell thought I did.  :confused5:

I read about 110 probs and while not troubled personally but concerned for those that have them and all, I file them away in the Category of Things That Make me Go Hmmmmmmmmmm...?   8)

Don't worry man. You don't know what you don't know! And the only thing you really know for sure, is that you really don't know nothing at all! ;) Hoist! 8)
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Re: Head Gasket
« Reply #44 on: June 01, 2007, 05:13:23 PM »
Quote from: Hoist on May 30, 2007, 01:06:24 PM
It's going in on Fri and no parts will be ordered until crank runout is checked. If it's excessive, it's new engine time. If not, we'll do the repairs/mods as previously discussed. Gets me to  thinking. Anyone know if HD has made any changes to new 110 engines to prevent the issues we're having? I've heard of .008" runout on new, unrun engines. How does this resolve anything? They have 07A P/N on Head Gasket now. Fine. What about Rocker Boxes. Are they properly clearanced now? How do I insure that a new motor is actually a new and improve version than the POS motors we have now? Hoist! 8)
  Hopefully they got you fixed up today.  Let us know how she runs.
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