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Re: Fluid Changing 101
« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2007, 10:53:58 PM »

Hog Dude,
I agree on the glorified oil change. I think the service manual is an excellent resource. Buy the service manual and follow the steps.That is what the dealer personnel is supposed to do. I don't feel like they do it. I make a copy and check off each step for the mileage listed. I think you need to pay special attention to the critical fasteners. The only trick I have found is to use one half of a half gallon plastic milk carton under the oil filter to catch the oil that would go everywhere if you don't. Good luck and enjoy doing it yourself.
Mike

Mike,
Thanks.... I will keep the milk carton in mind.
BTW, cool avatar  :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Fluid Changing 101
« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2007, 10:55:46 PM »

Is the "dead cat picture" taken from the back or the front of bike. ;D We must be clear when giving instruction :huepfenjump3:
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Re: Fluid Changing 101
« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2007, 10:57:58 PM »

It's not hard but can be messy changing all 3 holes.

Drain fluids with bike at operating temperature.
I change fluids with the bike on a side stand and not a lift.
Have the proper size tools.
Put new orings on the drain plugs.
When removing the oil filter, stuff a rag over the voltage regulator and front motor mount, loosen filter, then get a strong baggy or cut out the side and closed end of  a 2 litre bottle to slip over the filter and catch 90% of the oil that is left in the filter.
Don't overfill fluids.
Have a clean funnel.

Hope this helps a little-read the book and have fun.   :)  
Boatman,
Yes..... it does help.... thanks.
That's exactly why I opened the dialog for us new wrenchers.
I see 2 things I did wrong, the one and only time I changed the oil myself. I DID put it on my lift instead of the side stand, and I didn't put on new o-rings.
Thanks for those other tips...

Keep em coming guys  :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Fluid Changing 101
« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2007, 11:04:30 PM »


Here's a list of the items that are noted on my last service other than of course the SYN 3 oil and filter.

11105 -    Oring  -2
34906-85D -   inspection cover gasket
60391-04    drain plug


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Re: Fluid Changing 101
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2007, 11:06:45 PM »

About being on the side stand, once the fluids have about quit draining, I get on the bike, stand it up straight for a few minutes, and get a little more out.
You need pans about 4" high and big enough to hold 4 qts of motor oil.  
Look things over while fluids are draining.  You'll learn alot about your bike that way.
I also recommend a parts manual for your bike as it's exploded pictures will sometimes clarify what the service manual might take for granted that we know.
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Re: Fluid Changing 101
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2007, 11:51:34 PM »

Puzzled,
Thanks for the info. I am curious as to how many change at 3k instead of 5, since we talkin' syn in the CVO, but hey, I know that's an entire debate in and of itself.
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Oil change at 5k.  Trans and primary every other oil change on mine.  Dead cat every 25k.
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Re: Fluid Changing 101
« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2007, 11:54:20 PM »

About being on the side stand, once the fluids have about quit draining, I get on the bike, stand it up straight for a few minutes, and get a little more out.
You need pans about 4" high and big enough to hold 4 qts of motor oil.  
Look things over while fluids are draining.  You'll learn alot about your bike that way.
I also recommend a parts manual for your bike as it's exploded pictures will sometimes clarify what the service manual might take for granted that we know.

If someone does not have a pan to capture the draining motor oil a very effective catch pan is a gallon anti-freeze jug.  Just cut the top out of it.  Low enough to slide under the bike with room to spare.  Large enough volume to catch it all.  Big enough mouth when you cut it open to make it an easy target for the oil to hit.
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Re: Fluid Changing 101
« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2007, 12:03:27 AM »

Oil change at 5k.  Trans and primary every other oil change on mine.  Dead cat every 25k.

Don, is that a dead one or a live one? Sassy is moving down this weekend and has two... (still alive at this moment)

When is your 25k due?

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Re: Fluid Changing 101
« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2007, 12:05:52 AM »

Don, is that a dead one or a live one? Sassy is moving down this weekend and has two... (still alive at this moment)

When is your 25k due?

It's a bit beyond 25k now.  Went over everything back in early March.  Gotten used to the odor so just leave the dead cat installed now.  It's how I find my bike at rallies with so many other red ones sitting around.  Live cats you have to service more often.  Damn things.
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Re: Fluid Changing 101
« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2007, 08:03:14 AM »

About being on the side stand, once the fluids have about quit draining, I get on the bike, stand it up straight for a few minutes, and get a little more out.
You need pans about 4" high and big enough to hold 4 qts of motor oil.  
Look things over while fluids are draining.  You'll learn alot about your bike that way.
I also recommend a parts manual for your bike as it's exploded pictures will sometimes clarify what the service manual might take for granted that we know.
Boatman,
Thanks for the recommendation of the part manual....
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Re: Fluid Changing 101
« Reply #25 on: May 24, 2007, 08:04:03 AM »

Oil change at 5k.  Trans and primary every other oil change on mine.  Dead cat every 25k.

Gotcha.... Thanks  :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Fluid Changing 101
« Reply #26 on: May 24, 2007, 10:03:46 AM »

2Lanes's idea on the gallon jug as a catch pan is a good one.  Even I learned something new.   ::)
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Re: Fluid Changing 101
« Reply #27 on: May 24, 2007, 04:28:35 PM »

Folks,

I would like to ask some questions regarding do-it yourself oil changes and service. Frankly, I'm getting tired of throwing out $280 to my service dept. every 5,000 miles for what appears to me to be nothing more than an overglorified oil change.  :furious3:

1 - Does everyone change their primary and trans. fluids at the same time as oil changes, at 5,000 miles ?

2- I have changed the oil in my bike before; is it anymore involved doing the tranny and primary ?

I appreciate any input and typical procedures, tip, tricks, etc. that everyone follows.






When I Buy a New HD I let the dealer Service (ME) For length of the factory Warranty-( After all he has already screwed me buy selling it to me)  The reason I do this is because of any Pissing contest over who did what when. YES, The 5k is changing all the fluids, if they do it according to the shop manual it is Change the fluids and check stuff - THE LIST IS IN THE SERVICE MANUAL.


After that I change it myself every 5K All three holes with the sh#tty Screaming Eagle oil that really is amsoil with the HD label but don't tell all the amway dealers that. HD does not have it's own oil refinery DUH!

OF course this is what I do so I know IT"S NOT RIGHT but that's the way I do IT!  Your way will differ and not be any more right either.
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Re: Fluid Changing 101
« Reply #28 on: May 24, 2007, 04:43:01 PM »


After that I change it myself every 5K All three holes with the sh#tty Screaming Eagle oil that really is amsoil with the HD label but don't tell all the amway dealers that. HD does not have it's own oil refinery DUH!


HD=Amsoil=Amway ?

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Re: Fluid Changing 101
« Reply #29 on: May 24, 2007, 04:56:31 PM »

After that I change it myself every 5K All three holes with the sh#tty Screaming Eagle oil that really is amsoil with the HD label but don't tell all the amway dealers that. HD does not have it's own oil refinery DUH!

OF course this is what I do so I know IT"S NOT RIGHT but that's the way I do IT!  Your way will differ and not be any more right either.
Thanks, VAZ
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