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Re: SYN 3 decree
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2007, 11:12:12 PM »

Droped all oils SYN3 out of bikes today noticed that the 110 springer with 700 miles on the oil was black ,compaired to the evo fat boy with 2200 miles and the 02 cvo dyna with 1500 miles on the oil. This is the second change on the spring  I think the heat issue contributed to this.....
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Re: SYN 3 decree
« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2007, 03:10:18 AM »

Question for you boys...I have heard that cold storage tends to introduce water into the system especially if it is in freezing conditions and off and on freezing introduces more.  Wouldn't it be more prudent to change fluids BEFORE riding in the spring rather than before storage in the fall/winter??? :confused5: :confused5: :confused5: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss:

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Re: SYN 3 decree
« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2007, 07:00:19 AM »

While I'd certainly say that SYN 3 is not the best synthetic out there , I've used it  in my last 3 bikes and found it to perform better than dino oil, which was used during break in periods.  Amsoil, Mobil 1 , Royal Purple and Red Line are all viable and likely better alternatives.  The Moco want to keep folks over a barrel (oil in this case) during warranty so they can aqueeze more $$ out of them as usual. 
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Re: SYN 3 decree
« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2007, 08:30:02 AM »

Question for you boys...I have heard that cold storage tends to introduce water into the system especially if it is in freezing conditions and off and on freezing introduces more.  Wouldn't it be more prudent to change fluids BEFORE riding in the spring rather than before storage in the fall/winter??? :confused5: :confused5: :confused5: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss:

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Not really.  It is the combination of water vapor and combustion byproducts that forms acids.  By changing the oil and running the engine just long enough to circulate the fresh oil throughout the engine immediately before winter storage, you eliminate the combustion byproduct part of the equation.  When you take your first 20 mile ride in the spring, any water vapor in the engine or the oil will be boiled off.

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Re: SYN 3 decree
« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2007, 10:43:16 AM »

Thanx Jerry,
The learning here is just absolutely unbelievable.  Ever think about writing a CVO for Dummies guide?  If so, I will be the first in line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

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Re: SYN 3 decree
« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2007, 12:14:47 PM »

Anyone familiar with Redline MTL trans fluid, has a pink color but not as thick and pepto color as Shockproof?
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« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2007, 12:36:07 PM »

Anyone familiar with Redline MTL trans fluid, has a pink color but not as thick and pepto color as Shockproof?

Use it in the Primary, not the Trans, Rooster. Shockproof Heavy in the Trans. ;)

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Re: SYN 3 decree
« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2007, 12:40:19 PM »

Thanks Hoist, I was suspicious even though it said trans fluid
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« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2007, 12:44:54 PM »

Thanks Hoist, I was suspicious even though it said trans fluid

Don't forget, they don't just make this stuff for us. It's good in other Trans applications. ;)

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Re: SYN 3 decree
« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2007, 02:19:04 PM »

Use it in the Primary, not the Trans, Rooster. Shockproof Heavy in the Trans. ;)

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Whaddya like for the motor dude?  Ima fixing to drop all the fluids.  Had to go buy wheel weights today(chrome), they flew off..10 each 1/4 oz for only $4 n change...I think I dropped a fin on the local hog chapter box fer the hot dog n water.  That the cheapest I got outta there in ages...Saw the black 08 serk...very nice cept fer all that is wrong for $37k otd.

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« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2007, 03:29:56 PM »

Whaddya like for the motor dude?  Ima fixing to drop all the fluids.  Had to go buy wheel weights today(chrome), they flew off..10 each 1/4 oz for only $4 n change...I think I dropped a fin on the local hog chapter box fer the hot dog n water.  That the cheapest I got outta there in ages...Saw the black 08 serk...very nice cept fer all that is wrong for $37k otd.

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Re: SYN 3 decree
« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2007, 08:23:35 AM »

Thanks Hoist, I was suspicious even though it said trans fluid

Yea, like Hoist, I use it in my primary, Heavy Shockproof in the trans, and Mobil1 in the motor. All work really well, the Heavy Shockproof in the trans, makes a big difference you can actually feel and hear when you shift.
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Re: SYN 3 decree
« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2007, 08:51:37 AM »

Saw their little comment also, was wondering if this would be enough (since the MoCo puts out the Mag) to hold them to the Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act portion where it says they "must" supply it if it is the only oil you can use to uphold the warranty.  Any lawyers out there??
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Re: SYN 3 decree
« Reply #28 on: August 27, 2007, 09:08:25 AM »

Saw their little comment also, was wondering if this would be enough (since the MoCo puts out the Mag) to hold them to the Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act portion where it says they "must" supply it if it is the only oil you can use to uphold the warranty.  Any lawyers out there??
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Doubtful, and even if it was free I would continue to buy and use Mobil 1 anyway.  BTW, I did send an email to the editors of that fine publication.  I mentioned the Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975, and the fact that under that federal law the statement made in the mag was totally incorrect.  I then requested a correction/retraction in the next issue.  I'm currently sitting here turning blue while I hold my breath.

They actually did answer my email, but unfortunately it was one of those boilerplate form letter type of responses, with no detail.

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Re: SYN 3 decree
« Reply #29 on: August 27, 2007, 09:58:20 AM »

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Doubtful, and even if it was free I would continue to buy and use Mobil 1 anyway.  BTW, I did send an email to the editors of that fine publication.  I mentioned the Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975, and the fact that under that federal law the statement made in the mag was totally incorrect.  I then requested a correction/retraction in the next issue.  I'm currently sitting here turning blue while I hold my breath.

They actually did answer my email, but unfortunately it was one of those boilerplate form letter type of responses, with no detail.

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Ya just never know though, some lawyer gets ahold of it we could all be getting free oil....I'd use it....only problem I have with Syn3 is the cost.
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