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Re: Dyno Numbers?
« Reply #555 on: March 04, 2007, 07:39:59 AM »

Here's mine after before and after the Zippers 575 install. '05 SEEG2, SE air filter, SE 2 - piece slip ons, SERT. Too much snow to go for a test ride but think I'll be real pleased w/ the increased torque at the bottom / middle.
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Re: Dyno Numbers?
« Reply #556 on: March 26, 2007, 06:38:54 PM »

I got some good news and I got some bad news with my dyno run (and sheet posted below).  The numbers were higher (good news).........but not as high as they could have been had my clutch not been slipping. >:(  Sent it back to Jim's just after the dyno for a set of clutch plates and new spring.  However, a new dyno run pull wasn't done after the clutch plates were changed.

This is with stock heads, Vance & Hines Pro Pipe, high flow air cleaner, FCC14 gear drive cams and Fueling Rivera oil pump.  I also have the automatic primary chain tensoioner and the bearing support plate.
What kind of MORON Dyno Tech dynos a bike with a slipping clutch?
Even if he discovered it during the run, he should have quit.

PLEASE tell me it wasn't Dave at Folsom HD...

Hope they did not charge you to run it twice :)

Let me know when its done and we will go shake the bugs out! Mine is being Dynoed tomorrow, Please tell me it wasn't DAVE, Please!

Steven
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Re: Dyno Numbers?
« Reply #557 on: March 27, 2007, 09:53:06 AM »

I know who JC used, and it wasn't Dave or Folsom HD...
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Re: Dyno Numbers?
« Reply #558 on: March 27, 2007, 10:06:52 AM »

I know who JC used, and it wasn't Dave or Folsom HD...

Me too, because I was there :huepfenlol2:. The tech that did it is anything but a Moron. The clutch did not start slipping until the final couple of pulls on the dyno.

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Re: Dyno Numbers?
« Reply #559 on: March 27, 2007, 11:08:20 AM »

The same guy dyno'd my bike about 6 months ago and it runs great!  As to the slipping clutch, sucks that it happened right when it on the dyno, but chit happens.  As long as the bike is running good, it doesn't matter.  Not into the dyno bragging rights or I would have put 100 octane gas in the bike and a top end cam for the dyno runs...
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Re: Dyno Numbers?
« Reply #560 on: March 27, 2007, 11:34:44 AM »

Me too, because I was there :huepfenlol2:. The tech that did it is anything but a Moron. The clutch did not start slipping until the final couple of pulls on the dyno.

It went straight back to Jim's and got the clutch plates and discs changed out and now it grabs like it did when it was new.  Yes, it went back to the dyno for further tunning and Jim was there for that, too.........however, I don't have a print out of that.  I just know that my bike is running better than it was when my dyno sheet was printed.

I've been putting the miles on it since...........

At 104 HP and 113 TQ even with a slipping clutch.....that's nothin to sneeze at.  Those are some pretty good numbers considering it still has stock heads on a 103" motor.
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Re: Dyno Numbers?
« Reply #561 on: March 27, 2007, 12:35:51 PM »

Me too, because I was there :huepfenlol2:. The tech that did it is anything but a Moron. The clutch did not start slipping until the final couple of pulls on the dyno.

Scared me to hear someone dynoed a bike with a slipping clutch, I am sure if you all trust him he is OK.

It is nice it have it put in context.

Sorry, I assumed it was slipping the whole time.

My mistake for assuming.

Great Numbers!  :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Dyno Numbers?
« Reply #562 on: April 01, 2007, 01:02:55 PM »

Scared me to hear someone dynoed a bike with a slipping clutch, I am sure if you all trust him he is OK.

It is nice it have it put in context.

Sorry, I assumed it was slipping the whole time.

My mistake for assuming.

Great Numbers!  :2vrolijk_21:

Steven.....was great riding with you yesterday.  I guess we put the slipping clutch issue to rest. 

Your bike runs mighty strong, too.  And you're a damn good rider.  For the record guys.....Steven is one of those guys who can take the lead on lane splitting and thread a needle with his Ultra Classic and has no problem riding at 100+ mph for mile after mile after mile.  The ride home was definately different than the ride over.....as the horse was getting closer to the barn. :2vrolijk_21:
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« Reply #563 on: April 01, 2007, 01:42:51 PM »

3z's, great to hear you're putting those ponies to good use! ;) Get your ass to NYC sometime. We'll go for a good hell ride! Or the next time I get out your way! Our paths will cross some day. We'll have some real fun too! :2vrolijk_21: Hoist! 8)
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Re: Dyno Numbers?
« Reply #564 on: April 01, 2007, 03:40:13 PM »

Steven.....was great riding with you yesterday.  I guess we put the slipping clutch issue to rest. 

Your bike runs mighty strong, too.  And you're a damn good rider.  For the record guys.....Steven is one of those guys who can take the lead on lane splitting and thread a needle with his Ultra Classic and has no problem riding at 100+ mph for mile after mile after mile.  The ride home was definately different than the ride over.....as the horse was getting closer to the barn. :2vrolijk_21:

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Re: Dyno Numbers?
« Reply #565 on: April 01, 2007, 07:09:50 PM »

Steven.....was great riding with you yesterday.  I guess we put the slipping clutch issue to rest. 

Your bike runs mighty strong, too.  And you're a damn good rider.  For the record guys.....Steven is one of those guys who can take the lead on lane splitting and thread a needle with his Ultra Classic and has no problem riding at 100+ mph for mile after mile after mile.  The ride home was definitely different than the ride over.....as the horse was getting closer to the barn. :2vrolijk_21:

Thanks Jc,

JC's clutch is all better and the only reason I took the lead on splittin there was a crotch rocket splittin 1 and 2 , JC and I were in 2 and 3,  I caught a hole on the right to 1/4 mile off ramp(we did not get off) got back in and Jc was right on my tail  :2vrolijk_21:

Later on the lanes were merging 4 to 3, a semi was blocking 3 and 4, I braked, pointed right, JC hammered past and was back in the lead..

I am curious about one thing, if you are splitting>>> Does that break the 2 second rule??  :orange: Technically there is nothing in front of you :bananarock:

As JC stated the ride home was fun, We had never ridden together so the first half of the day was a little mellow. All in all it was a great day, Thanks JC! :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Dyno Numbers?
« Reply #566 on: April 04, 2007, 07:46:27 AM »

Got my bike back from the dyno yesterday evening

This is with PCIII, AN big sucker, V&H True Duals, S&S SPO's, 575 Gear Drive Cams, Feuling oil pump + Lifters, SE pushrods (and a HID headlamp!!) - Thanks to everyone who blazed the trail for me.  :2vrolijk_21:

I have the PC hub fitted too with the switch to change between maps (Economy and Power) but haven't tried that yet.

According to Dynojet the difference is only effective between 10% and 40% throttle and even then the AFR is only 13.8 on economy as against 12.8 on power so I won't be breaking any fuel economy records just yet

These graphs are on the power map - don't know why the layout is like this - it just is...

I have now posted the charts as jpg and there is another page which I will post in a minute

To be honest the numbers are better than I expected and from the seat of the pants it is just great  :)

I only went out for 40 miles last night - it was a bit cool (5C = 41F) but opening the throttle at 2000 - 2500 rpm in second and it absolutely shoots away.

Not too noisy on the SPO's either so I am a happy man - for now - and so are my neighbours!!

I'll post the "before cams" graph next

Cheers  :drink:

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Re: Dyno Numbers?
« Reply #567 on: April 04, 2007, 07:54:03 AM »

This is the before Dyno chart showing the original numbers at 3202 miles with V&H Ovals, then at 14,748 with SPO's

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Re: Dyno Numbers?
« Reply #568 on: April 04, 2007, 08:31:33 AM »

This is the second chart from the latest tune

AFR nice and flat

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Re: Dyno Numbers?
« Reply #569 on: April 05, 2007, 02:35:02 PM »

These are stock dyno numbers.  This is new to me, would like to understand the significance of how the numbers break out.  Maybe someone here is really bored and has the time or inclination to explain this to a newbie.

What's the goal as you make your adjustments.  Is higher really better?  Where do you want your power and torque on the curve so that it works?  Can you make adjustments, such as cams, exhaust, etc, with confidence that you can achieve your goal? Or is it a trial and error sort of thing?

Any source, such as an article, or whatever, so that I can learn?  Thanks.
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