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Re: Dyno Numbers?
« Reply #405 on: August 27, 2005, 02:40:56 PM »

Mr. Magoo,

Any chance your dyno guy will reprint that for you in SAE vs. STD?  
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Re: Dyno Numbers?
« Reply #406 on: August 30, 2005, 01:45:51 AM »

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Re: Dyno Numbers?
« Reply #407 on: August 30, 2005, 05:29:14 PM »

Looks like the classic thunderheader torque dip that everyone refers to.  Nice HP though.
Is that dip something you feel with the butt dyno, or just on paper?
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Re: Dyno Numbers?
« Reply #408 on: September 06, 2005, 12:12:15 PM »

I don't feel it at all, but I did recently get this bike after riding a stock 88.  All I know is that if I hit the throttle hard at 5-10 mph, the front wheel comes about 2-3 inches of the ground in both first and second...
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Re: Dyno Numbers?
« Reply #409 on: September 06, 2005, 05:52:45 PM »

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Re: Dyno Numbers?
« Reply #410 on: September 06, 2005, 11:17:30 PM »

Sure a lot more fun than my Heritage... [smiley=7.gif]

It seems that quality of the chrome on my Thunderheaders is less than stellar.  The heat shields are fine so you can't see the problem, but the chrome is popping off of the pipe.  They are going to replace it, then Bruce is going to play with the download a bit and redyno.  I'll let you know the results
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Re: Dyno Numbers?
« Reply #411 on: September 17, 2005, 02:28:53 PM »

This was a free run on a new dyno installed yesterday.

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I dont know why the rpm didn`t print but it starts about 2500rpm and goes to 5500rpm
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Re: Dyno Numbers?
« Reply #412 on: September 23, 2005, 10:44:30 AM »

WOW ... check out this dyno run on the SEEG!
« Last Edit: September 23, 2005, 12:51:14 PM by SE06 »
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Re: Dyno Numbers?
« Reply #413 on: September 23, 2005, 11:20:05 AM »

Yeah, 'er 'uh, SE06,
 Pretty impressive numbers!  Can't wait to see what it'll do on the pavement!  Guess we'll be going to Charleston WFO again, huh? [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]  I'll arrive in Myrtle late Wednesday nite, the 28th.  See ya'll on Thursday! [smiley=bigok.gif]  Later--HUBBARD  
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Re: Dyno Numbers?
« Reply #414 on: September 23, 2005, 02:10:39 PM »

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« Reply #415 on: September 23, 2005, 11:34:59 PM »

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Re: Dyno Numbers?
« Reply #416 on: September 23, 2005, 11:46:35 PM »

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Mr. Magoo,

Any chance your dyno guy will reprint that for you in SAE vs. STD?
« Last Edit: September 24, 2005, 09:12:03 AM by 103tHunDer »
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Re: Dyno Numbers?
« Reply #417 on: September 24, 2005, 03:29:47 AM »

Davidb,

See if this helps I got the information from Daytona sport bikers forums.

The power output of an internal combustion engine is significantly influenced by barometric pressure, ambient air temperature, and air humidity.

The lower ambient barometric pressure reduces the density of the air, thus reduces the amount of oxygen filling the cylinder for each cycle, resulting in lower power output. Conversely, higher barometric pressure increases power.

The lower ambient air temperature results in increased density of the air, thus increases the amount of oxygen filling the cylinder for each cycle, resulting in higher power output. Conversely, higher air temperature reduces power output.

Lower air humidity (= less water vapor) leaves more room for oxygen per cubic foot of air, thus increases the amount of oxygen filling the cylinder for each cycle, resulting in higher power output. Conversely, higher air humidity reduces power output.

Several Standards organizations have determined methods for estimating engine power under reference conditions. The best known organizations are:

ISO (International Standards Organization), worldwide
SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers), USA
ECE (European Community), Europe
JIS (Japanese Institute for Standardization), Japan
DIN (Deutsche Industrie Norm), Germany

There are power correction standards for gasoline and Diesel engines, for applications in road vehicles, stationary engines, or marine engines, etc. For a motorcycle dynamometer, relevant standards are those generally intended for gasoline engines in road vehicles and those specific to motorcycles.

SAE -- The SAE standard applied is a modified version of the SAE J1349 standard of June 1990. Power is corrected to reference conditions of 29.23 InHg (99 kPa) of dry air and 77 F (25
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Re: Dyno Numbers?
« Reply #418 on: September 24, 2005, 09:08:19 AM »

The "SAE corrected" power numbers indicated by the dynos are more accurate estimates of engine power output under reference conditions and use either a calculated ME correction or use a fixed ME of 85%.  
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 Guess that explains why some retailers us STD numbers intstead of SAE numbers
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Re: Dyno Numbers?
« Reply #419 on: September 24, 2005, 10:06:01 PM »

So if the shop gives you a SAE number ...immediatly convert it to STD!

So you can say my number is bigger than your number...

Kinda like...my dad can beat up your dad...

No matter how old...boys will be boys!

PS. God...I hope I get good numbers when I finally get mine dynoed.
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