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[Black Diamond]

Scott and Howie,

I would like to thank both of you for your advice and sharing your experiences. You too, Harry!

I have decided to make her a 117 ci.! Talked with Wes about boring out the spigots for the 117 ci. He thinks it will be more reliable as we can make sure to square the cases and base of the cylinders for a tight, flush fit. I'm still going to make it a mild build with a moderate compression rate but with more low end torque. Foremost, the motor will be as reliable as I can make it.

I may have to become Black Diamond 117

JW

[sadunbar]

Did you put a reserve or just let them go ?

I put a reserve on the parts I thought carried greater value.  The other parts sold with no reserve.  I hate accumulating parts that I know I'll never use again - I am no pack rat!  Had those parts not sold, I would have given them away or tossed them.  I was suprised it all sold...

Scott

[Black Diamond]

sblade1948

I'm still doing the build. I haven't got anything back to sell yet.

JW

[sadunbar]

Scott and Howie,

I would like to thank both of you for your advice and sharing your experiences. You too, Harry!

I have decided to make her a 117 ci.! Talked with Wes about boring out the spigots for the 117 ci. He thinks it will be more reliable as we can make sure to square the cases and base of the cylinders for a tight, flush fit. I'm still going to make it a mild build with a moderate compression rate but with more low end torque. Foremost, the motor will be as reliable as I can make it.

I may have to become Black Diamond 117

JW

[Black Diamond]

The latest snag in the build.

Since I have decided to go with the Axtell cylinders, I am trying to find someone that can powder coat in the 08 granite color to match the heads and lower. I can get the paint but I'm looking for the powder coat for durability. The plan is to get the raw cylinder from Axtell, powder coat, then back to Axtell to finish the bore and hone em. If not then may do the same process but with paint.

The crank is done and waiting to be shipped back from Darkhorse Crankworks- trued and balanced with Pro plugs installed. Their doing the Timken bearings too.

JW

[skreminegul07]

The latest snag in the build.

Since I have decided to go with the Axtell cylinders, I am trying to find someone that can powder coat in the 08 granite color to match the heads and lower. I can get the paint but I'm looking for the powder coat for durability. The plan is to get the raw cylinder from Axtell, powder coat, then back to Axtell to finish the bore and hone em. If not then may do the same process but with paint.

The crank is done and waiting to be shipped back from Darkhorse Crankworks- trued and balanced with Pro plugs installed. Their doing the Timken bearings too.

JW

Did you see the thread from Twolane in the Good /bad vendor section regarding Powder coating by Sumax, Axtell jugs and Diamondhead cutting.  Read that thoroughly and see the other picts regarding Axtell's FINISH work done after powder oating.

[Black Diamond]

skreminegul07

Thanks for tip. Time for another call to Axtell. Thanks again!

JW

[sadunbar]

JW,

  Have you decided on all the details of your build now?  What are you doing for heads and cams?

Scott

[Black Diamond]

Hey Scott

Heres Option 6 / the final option: Cycle Rama 117 ci motor
-Cycle Rama (CR) head work on 110 SE Heads w/ACR's
-JE flat top 117 ci pistons with custom rings installed by Wes
-Axtell 117 ci cylinders, powder coat to match granite motor
-CR 595 cam & Torrington bearings
-SE Cam Support Plate
-CR polished & modified SE 58mm TB
-SE Roller Rockers
-Darkhorse Crankworks Pro Plugs on crank, true and balance
-Timken bearing
-Rivera Taperlite Pushrod
-SE Rocker Arm Support
-SE Cylinder Studs
-Clearance Rocker Boxes & Cam Chest
-Upgrade clutch AIM VP92T
-Chrome Billet Aluminum Covers
-Flush mount gas and fuel cap 

Wes and I talked at length on the cam after I decided to go bigger. Based on my riding style, we stayed with the 595. Thermal coating heads (chamber, ports and valves) as well as pistons (top, skirt and underneath) to reduce heat. After milling the heads, the compression will be 10.0 to 1. Wes is going to work with the SE throttle body to make it as efficient as possible as it's all that available at this point with the new electronic throttle control.

Got unfinished cylinders from Axtell on Friday. There at the powder coater now. Then back to Axtell for finishing. I have told them I know of some problems they have had in the past with machining. Thanks for the heads up from CVO members.  I will get photos before they go to Wes. Wes will do a finish hone when he's mocking it up. Figure I might as well diamond cut em too.

Crank and Timken is complete. We're measuring pinion and spline side of crank to insure no problems.

Hooking up with painter for final design on hard bags.

I'm sure I'm forgetting a lot of details but that's a quick catch up. Hope to be done in 6 weeks or so.

JW

[sadunbar]

Hey Scott

Heres Option 6 / the final option: Cycle Rama 117 ci motor
-Cycle Rama (CR) head work on 110 SE Heads w/ACR's
-JE flat top 117 ci pistons with custom rings installed by Wes
-Axtell 117 ci cylinders, powder coat to match granite motor
-CR 595 cam & Torrington bearings
-SE Cam Support Plate
-CR polished & modified SE 58mm TB
-SE Roller Rockers
-Darkhorse Crankworks Pro Plugs on crank, true and balance
-Timken bearing
-Rivera Taperlite Pushrod
-SE Rocker Arm Support
-SE Cylinder Studs
-Clearance Rocker Boxes & Cam Chest
-Upgrade clutch AIM VP94T
-Chrome Billet Aluminum Covers
-Flush mount gas and fuel cap 

Wes and I talked at length on the cam after I decided to go bigger. Based on my riding style, we stayed with the 595. Thermal coating heads (chamber, ports and valves) as well as pistons (top, skirt and underneath) to reduce heat. After milling the heads, the compression will be 10.0 to 1. Wes is going to work with the SE throttle body to make it as efficient as possible as it's all that available at this point with the new electronic throttle control.

Got unfinished cylinders from Axtell on Friday. There at the powder coater now. Then back to Axtell for finishing. I have told them I know of some problems they have had in the past with machining. Thanks for the heads up from CVO members.  I will get photos before they go to Wes. Wes will do a finish hone when he's mocking it up. Figure I might as well diamond cut em too.

Crank and Timken is complete. We're measuring pinion and spline side of crank to insure no problems.

Hooking up with painter for final design on hard bags.

I'm sure I'm forgetting a lot of details but that's a quick catch up. Hope to be done in 6 weeks or so.

JW

JW,

Sounds like a great combination of pieces!  You have made some great choices.  Who is doing the final assembly, Wes or your dealer?  You will have to do an update every few weeks or so as you progress with the build!  good luck!

Scott

[Black Diamond]

The guys at Gutterridge HD are putting her together. I know a lot of guys don't trust HD techs. I have complete confidence in these guys. They really thought the Axtell's were the way to go. Brought up the SE cam plate as a good option. They have just treated me right. And they will warranty all of it. Wes is good with em. Thinks they are good for the job. As Howie likes to say It ain't rocket science.

I'll keep ya informed...thanks for asking.

JW

[Talon]

JW,

Sounds like a great combination of pieces!  You have made some great choices.  Who is doing the final assembly, Wes or your dealer?  You will have to do an update every few weeks or so as you progress with the build!  good luck!

Scott

Hey Scott, have you been able to get you bike out yet? Wondering how you like you new build.

[sadunbar]

Hey Scott, have you been able to get you bike out yet? Wondering how you like you new build.

Talon,

Nope - and I won't anytime soon.  Winter riding is out of the question around here.  Weather is almost always below freezing for a couple of months yet, and the roads are covered with salt and sand.  It will be two or three months before I will get any kind of riding in...

Scott

[Talon]

Talon,

Nope - and I won't anytime soon.  Winter riding is out of the question around here.  Weather is almost always below freezing for a couple of months yet, and the roads are covered with salt and sand.  It will be two or three months before I will get any kind of riding in...

Scott

Yea, that's what I thought. It's been in the 50's over the weekend, I was sick, but went out Sunday anyway, lost of bikes out, we haven't had that much good weather this winter.

[Trapperdog]

Black Diamond, are you going to leave those fork reflectors on to help keep the front end down?  Can't wait to hear how she turns out!