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Re: Dodge Challenger
« Reply #75 on: December 11, 2007, 06:04:57 PM »

 OK, Has anybody truly read somewhere official that there will be only one per dealer ? I have heard of many stories of multiple sales at various dealerships. Since I ordered mine on December 3rd and was the second of two orders that day, I am somewhat concerned. I talked to my dealer yesterday and he had not heard or seen any such restriction. In fact, last week about Wednesday, the area sales rep called him to make sure that he had made his Challenger orders. When he told the rep that he had ordered two on Monday, the rep said  "Great." If there were any restrictions in place, the dealer said that he thought the rep would have mentioned it. As I said, I am not too concerned but it does gnaw at my stomach a little. I fully realize our small dealership will probably be the last to get theirs and the major markets will see them first. But, with all the connections on this sight, I thought somebody might be able to clear this up.
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Re: Dodge Challenger
« Reply #76 on: December 17, 2007, 06:21:37 PM »

Well it has begun,



 I purchased my second 2008 Challenger the other day.



  And yes it is a 1:24 Dub model, 


 just something to tide me over till the big one gets here.



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Re: Dodge Challenger
« Reply #77 on: December 17, 2007, 07:37:47 PM »

OK, Has anybody truly read somewhere official that there will be only one per dealer ? I have heard of many stories of multiple sales at various dealerships. Since I ordered mine on December 3rd and was the second of two orders that day, I am somewhat concerned. I talked to my dealer yesterday and he had not heard or seen any such restriction. In fact, last week about Wednesday, the area sales rep called him to make sure that he had made his Challenger orders. When he told the rep that he had ordered two on Monday, the rep said  "Great." If there were any restrictions in place, the dealer said that he thought the rep would have mentioned it. As I said, I am not too concerned but it does gnaw at my stomach a little. I fully realize our small dealership will probably be the last to get theirs and the major markets will see them first. But, with all the connections on this sight, I thought somebody might be able to clear this up.

I talked with John, the owner of Roanoke Motors in Roanoke, IL on Saturday morning.  He said they'd taken 47 orders so far, but that he fully expected that "many" of those would turn into orders for the following model year.  He didn't say squat about any "one car per dealer" restrictions, though, and with orders that high, he's going to need to get multiple cars or he'll have a lot of pi$$ed of folks.  He did say that he thought the total production for next year was going to be capped at 5,000, but I saw something on a program on the SPEED channel a few days ago where a representative of Chrysler mentioned it won't exceed 10,000, but that the exact number had not yet been determined.

As far as what dealers get cars, with the ordering process that was used, you'd have to think it's first come, first served.

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Re: Dodge Challenger
« Reply #78 on: December 17, 2007, 11:53:48 PM »

 Well, I hope you're right about the first come first served. Since I am one of the first day orders. I noticed seventeen of these cars on E-bay this evening, with the most expensive being $20,000 over sticker. Most are saying a production of 4,500 but that is what you would say if you were trying to sell the exclusivity point. One high volume dealer in northen Indiana says that he has three coming in, two orange and one black. All fully loaded. Another small dealer north of me in Paris, Illinois ordered a black one for dealer stock. The wife is all fired up about going up to the Chicago auto show in February, just to get an early look at one. I've never been, so it could be a fun thing to do.
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Re: Dodge Challenger
« Reply #79 on: December 18, 2007, 09:05:42 AM »

Well, I hope you're right about the first come first served. Since I am one of the first day orders. I noticed seventeen of these cars on E-bay this evening, with the most expensive being $20,000 over sticker. Most are saying a production of 4,500 but that is what you would say if you were trying to sell the exclusivity point. One high volume dealer in northen Indiana says that he has three coming in, two orange and one black. All fully loaded. Another small dealer north of me in Paris, Illinois ordered a black one for dealer stock. The wife is all fired up about going up to the Chicago auto show in February, just to get an early look at one. I've never been, so it could be a fun thing to do.

Oh, man, you've never been?!?  Fun is an understatement! :huepfenjump3:  That show is great!  My only suggestion would be to get your tickets online so you're not dealing with the lines and to go during the week if you can.  I usually take a day of work (ususally Tuesday or Wednesday) since the crowds are not quite as bad during the week.

YOU need to get fired up about it, too!  You'll have a great time!

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Re: Dodge Challenger
« Reply #80 on: December 18, 2007, 06:36:52 PM »

Well, I hope you're right about the first come first served. Since I am one of the first day orders. I noticed seventeen of these cars on E-bay this evening, with the most expensive being $20,000 over sticker. Most are saying a production of 4,500 but that is what you would say if you were trying to sell the exclusivity point. One high volume dealer in northen Indiana says that he has three coming in, two orange and one black. All fully loaded. Another small dealer north of me in Paris, Illinois ordered a black one for dealer stock. The wife is all fired up about going up to the Chicago auto show in February, just to get an early look at one. I've never been, so it could be a fun thing to do.



 I know you are going to post some pix just as soon as you can after the show, aren't you ?



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« Reply #81 on: December 21, 2007, 11:14:55 AM »

 Yesterday, I was out with a friend of mine who is into Mustangs. We stopped at a dealership near here to look at a Mustang GT 500. It was a sharp car. Red exterior with white stripes. The interior was black/red. Manual transmission. It had an inflated price of $49,999 but the owner of the dealership told us that they would accept the sticker MSRP of around $45,000. My friend declined but I was curious about the gas guzzler tax. The Mustang's guzzler tax was only $1300 compared to the Challenger's $2100. I thought that their mileage ratings were similar but I found out that small differences make quite a difference in the tax. Notice the following Government table. My GTX's tax would be $7700. I think the Mustang's mileage figures are identical to an SRT-8 Charger's. So, I am still a little puzzled how they figured it.


at least 22.5 No tax
at least 21.5, but less than 22.5 $1000
at least 20.5, but less than 21.5 $1300
at least 19.5, but less than 20.5 $1700
at least 18.5, but less than 19.5 $2100
at least 17.5, but less than 18.5 $2600
at least 16.5, but less than 17.5 $3000
at least 15.5, but less than 16.5 $3700
at least 14.5, but less than 15.5 $4500
at least 13.5, but less than 14.5 $5400
at least 12.5, but less than 13.5 $6400
less than 12.5 $7700
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Re: Dodge Challenger
« Reply #82 on: December 24, 2007, 12:05:54 PM »

 I was out getting my truck serviced today and the dealer called me in to his office to talk about the Challenger. He said that last week the status of the black one that was ordered for the dealership owner had been changed from "Order has passed edit but cannot be considered for scheduling." to "Tentative Schedule." My car's status was changed from "Order has passed edit but cannot be considered for scheduling." to "Good order-available for scheduling." He is thinking that means they have parts for the car but it won't necessarily be made for me. I guess that's where the Big Dealerships have the advantage. He is still very hopefull because of his past experience. He says sold cars tend to get built before dealerstock orders. I hope he is correct.
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Re: Dodge Challenger
« Reply #83 on: January 04, 2008, 04:25:13 PM »

I think they did a good job of capturing the essence of the original , like the Mustang and unlike the new  Camaro. The Challenger was my dream car in high school, best of luck with it, I'm sure it will be worth every penny
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Re: Dodge Challenger
« Reply #84 on: January 04, 2008, 09:15:31 PM »

 My cars status hasn't changed yet. My dealer had me call Chrysler customer service to see if I could get someone to tell me if my car had a chance of being built or not. So, I gave them a call and I had to tell the guy the Challenger family code before he could even find my order. He was nice and friendly but was not much help. He said that I was ahead of a lot of others but he could not say if my car would be built or not. The dealer wanted to know, so he could ask another local dealer for his dealerstock ordered car. That was last week and since my status has not changed, he wants me to call them again next week. He says to try and get past the first guy I talk to. He says he has had people from all over calling and trying to get a Challenger from him. People from upstate and from as far away as Oklahoma.
 I odered tickets this morning for the Chicago Auto Show. We plan on going on the 8th of February. We are going to take AMTRAK from the closest location and ride it to Chicago. We were advised to take a cab from the AMTRAK station to McCormick Center. They told us that the state funding for the mass transit system is in shambles and that the system is unreliable and the price was expected to triple after the first of the year. So, that's the plan for now.
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Re: Dodge Challenger
« Reply #85 on: January 04, 2008, 09:29:10 PM »

My cars status hasn't changed yet. My dealer had me call Chrysler customer service to see if I could get someone to tell me if my car had a chance of being built or not. So, I gave them a call and I had to tell the guy the Challenger family code before he could even find my order. He was nice and friendly but was not much help. He said that I was ahead of a lot of others but he could not say if my car would be built or not. The dealer wanted to know, so he could ask another local dealer for his dealerstock ordered car. That was last week and since my status has not changed, he wants me to call them again next week. He says to try and get past the first guy I talk to. He says he has had people from all over calling and trying to get a Challenger from him. People from upstate and from as far away as Oklahoma.
 I odered tickets this morning for the Chicago Auto Show. We plan on going on the 8th of February. We are going to take AMTRAK from the closest location and ride it to Chicago. We were advised to take a cab from the AMTRAK station to McCormick Center. They told us that the state funding for the mass transit system is in shambles and that the system is unreliable and the price was expected to triple after the first of the year. So, that's the plan for now.

There is a lot of political stuff going on with the mass transit system right now.  The Illinois govenor and Mayor Daley are playing poker.  Daley will win - he always does...   But for now, take the cab...and enjoy the show!

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Re: Dodge Challenger
« Reply #86 on: January 04, 2008, 11:26:57 PM »

I'm happy for you guys, but as a Camaro guy this is killing me....why couldn't Chevy have got it right...
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Re: Dodge Challenger
« Reply #87 on: January 11, 2008, 12:46:05 PM »

Man these guys on E-Bay are just plain goofy  :huepfenjump3: .

I can not believe how much they are giving for a brochure.

Three have sold for 200.00 or more.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2008-DODGE-CHALLENGER-SRT8-DEALER-BROCHURE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ34218QQihZ010QQitemZ200185915903QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW



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Re: Dodge Challenger
« Reply #88 on: January 14, 2008, 01:36:43 PM »

Yesterday, I was out with a friend of mine who is into Mustangs. We stopped at a dealership near here to look at a Mustang GT 500. It was a sharp car. Red exterior with white stripes. The interior was black/red. Manual transmission. It had an inflated price of $49,999 but the owner of the dealership told us that they would accept the sticker MSRP of around $45,000. My friend declined but I was curious about the gas guzzler tax. The Mustang's guzzler tax was only $1300 compared to the Challenger's $2100. I thought that their mileage ratings were similar but I found out that small differences make quite a difference in the tax. Notice the following Government table. My GTX's tax would be $7700. I think the Mustang's mileage figures are identical to an SRT-8 Charger's. So, I am still a little puzzled how they figured it.


at least 22.5 No tax
at least 21.5, but less than 22.5 $1000
at least 20.5, but less than 21.5 $1300
at least 19.5, but less than 20.5 $1700
at least 18.5, but less than 19.5 $2100
at least 17.5, but less than 18.5 $2600
at least 16.5, but less than 17.5 $3000
at least 15.5, but less than 16.5 $3700
at least 14.5, but less than 15.5 $4500
at least 13.5, but less than 14.5 $5400
at least 12.5, but less than 13.5 $6400
less than 12.5 $7700


I believe that once the total for the manufacturer is figured the manufacturer decides how to collect it; ie: none on automatics, all of it divided among the manuals etc.  Also, it's for fleet average and if you have a big production number with high mileage models I believe there is some credit because of the average. 

This is why Porsche ran a bill that would allow an exemption for a low volume manufacturer, it failed to pass.

I only recently learned that on most models that don't meet it Porsche buys it down.

Don't take this all as fact but it is my understanding, thin as it is on quotable research.
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Re: Dodge Challenger
« Reply #89 on: January 14, 2008, 05:47:05 PM »

I've been calling customer service every Monday for the last three weeks. My dealer advised that the squeaky wheel might get his car. Mine has still got a BX status. Today, the lady assured me that my car will be built but she couldn't tell me when. I hope she is correct but I'm cautious about what she actually knows.
Some more pictures.

www.autoblog.com/2008/01/11/reader-spy-production-dodge-challenger-naked-in-rain/

www.dodgechallenger.com/forums/upfiles/748/8AC9E709347D49E6ADF2C8A4F64CC6FF.jpg

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