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[HUBBARD]

Don't need a permit to carry an unconcealed weapon in WV, and Va, in certain environments.  I myself, have a CWP, and have since 1987.  The right to bear arms for my own protection, was given me by my Creator.  You know, like in "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness."  The Constitution is only an instrument to protect those God-given Rights.  BTW, effective August 1, 2006, in WV, I am no longer required to inform an officer of the Law I have a dangerous and deadly weapon in my vehicle, when stopped for whatever reason.  Permit or no permit, as long as I am alive, I will have a Firearm in my possession.  Better to have one and not need it, than to need one and not have it.  There enedth the lesson.  Later--HUBBARD   

[VaEagle]

[quote author=HUBBARD link=topic=19985.msg327458#msg327458 .  BTW, effective August 1, 2006, in WV, I am no longer required to inform an officer of the Law I have a dangerous and deadly weapon in my vehicle, when stopped for whatever reason.   
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I know that in Virginia if you have a Concealed Weapons Permit it is linked to your driver's license and vehicle registration info so even before the officer walks up on your vehicle if he has run your plate it will notify him that the registered owner has a permit. I don't know if that applies to out-of-state permit holders though. FYI.

[Fired00d]

I know that in Virginia if you have a Concealed Weapons Permit it is linked to your driver's license and vehicle registration info so even before the officer walks up on your vehicle if he has run your plate it will notify him that the registered owner has a permit. I don't know if that applies to out-of-state permit holders though. FYI.

I just recently took a class to get a Utah CWP and was told in the class that unlike having a Va. CWP the Utah one will not be linked to my DL (for Va. LEO to know). However I think it's a good practice to inform a LEO officer when he approaches (with both hands remaining on the steering wheel) that I'm carrying, and where it is. I don't want to have (give) some rookie/trigger happy/nervous LEO the chance to at a minimum have me face down on the ground if not accidental shooting me.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[spydglide]

I just recently took a class to get a Utah CWP and was told in the class that unlike having a Va. CWP the Utah one will not be linked to my DL (for Va. LEO to know). However I think it's a good practice to inform a LEO officer when he approaches (with both hands remaining on the steering wheel) that I'm carrying, and where it is. I don't want to have (give) some rookie/trigger happy/nervous LEO the chance to at a minimum have me face down on the ground if not accidental shooting me.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

It is still req'd. in NC for Concealed Carry to inform LEO's that you're licensed and carrying a concealed firearm.  Unfortunately, the NC law allows privately owned businesses such as 7-elevens, gas stations, etc. to post a 'no concealed weapons' sign which makes having one on premises illegal........this would be a situation where voluntarily informing that you're carrying would not be prudent.  Just as removing your concealed weapon before entering such establishment in certain places and going unarmed would not be prudent.  Is this what they call a 'catch 22'?     spyder

[Fired00d]

It is still req'd. in NC for Concealed Carry to inform LEO's that you're licensed and carrying a concealed firearm.  Unfortunately, the NC law allows privately owned businesses such as 7-elevens, gas stations, etc. to post a 'no concealed weapons' sign which makes having one on premises illegal........this would be a situation where voluntarily informing that you're carrying would not be prudent.  Just as removing your concealed weapon before entering such establishment in certain places and going unarmed would not be prudent.  Is this what they call a 'catch 22'?     spyder

Va. has the same type laws. Any private business can post "No Weapons" and you're not allowed to carry them on their property. Those type establishments IMO aren't deserving of my money. You are right in cases like that if I were carrying I wouldn't tell the officer. Hopefully I wouldn't be in the need of one (LEO), and in most cases if I'm "illegal" I'm going to be a model citizen in their presence.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[naitram]

when i had my small buisness i'd go into the post office in the morning, its illigale to carry in a PO... but i wasnt gpoing to take it off and leave it in my truck 

[spydglide]

Va. has the same type laws. Any private business can post "No Weapons" and you're not allowed to carry them on their property. Those type establishments IMO aren't deserving of my money. You are right in cases like that if I were carrying I wouldn't tell the officer. Hopefully I wouldn't be in the need of one (LEO), and in most cases if I'm "illegal" I'm going to be a model citizen in their presence.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

as always.  har!  spyder

[Fired00d]

when i had my small buisness i'd go into the post office in the morning, its illigale to carry in a PO... but i wasnt gpoing to take it off and leave it in my truck 

You didn't work there I don't see the harm not like you were going to go "postal".

 
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Fired00d
 

[spydglide]

when i had my small buisness i'd go into the post office in the morning, its illigale to carry in a PO... but i wasnt gpoing to take it off and leave it in my truck 

Yeah, you never know about those postal workers.... ...har!  spyder

[Fired00d]

as always.  har!  spyder

Probably has something to do with all the illegal stuff I did in my past and never got caught doing it.

 
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Fired00d
 

[spydglide]

Probably has something to do with all the illegal stuff I did in my past and never got caught doing it.

 
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Fired00d
 

         

[LRebel]

The way I see it, if someone has passed the background check and gone through the required training to get their CPW, they are most likely law abiding responsible citizens that do not want to jeopardize their CPW.

We law abiding responsible citizens are not the ones that society has to be worried about.  In fact, if we that are carrying legally were allowed to carry in all the places that are "off limits", there might be a lot fewer tragedys, like the massacre at the Omaha mall a few weeks ago.

A sign banning weapons in a business, state or federal building, or other establishment is not going to keep the bad guys from carrying anyway.

[Fired00d]

The way I see it, if someone has passed the background check and gone through the required training to get their CPW, they are most likely law abiding responsible citizens that do not want to jeopardize their CPW.

We law abiding responsible citizens are not the ones that society has to be worried about.  In fact, if we that are carrying legally were allowed to carry in all the places that are "off limits", there might be a lot fewer tragedys, like the massacre at the Omaha mall a few weeks ago.

A sign banning weapons in a business, state or federal building, or other establishment is not going to keep the bad guys from carrying anyway.

So very true. The states/cities that have an outright ban on guns are statistically the ones that have the most gun related crimes.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[HUBBARD]

The way I see it, if someone has passed the background check and gone through the required training to get their CPW, they are most likely law abiding responsible citizens that do not want to jeopardize their CPW.

We law abiding responsible citizens are not the ones that society has to be worried about.  In fact, if we that are carrying legally were allowed to carry in all the places that are "off limits", there might be a lot fewer tragedys, like the massacre at the Omaha mall a few weeks ago.

A sign banning weapons in a business, state or federal building, or other establishment is not going to keep the bad guys from carrying anyway.

The LAW ain't for us.  The LAW is to protect LAW breaker.  Correct me, if I'm wrong.  Later--HUBBARD

[naitram]

The LAW ain't for us.  The LAW is to protect LAW breaker.  Correct me, if I'm wrong.  Later--HUBBARD

i wish i could but unfortunatley you are correct