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Re: Since politics has invaded forum-Who buys the Global Warming issue?
« Reply #60 on: January 24, 2008, 03:07:58 PM »

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Re: Since politics has invaded forum-Who buys the Global Warming issue?
« Reply #61 on: January 24, 2008, 03:10:14 PM »

These guys are not politicians, thank God...
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Re: Since politics has invaded forum-Who buys the Global Warming issue?
« Reply #62 on: January 24, 2008, 03:11:32 PM »

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=7F5A2F7F-E7F2-99DF-3BFC3A22DBF88894

Six years is not a long time in science. Data may be collected, a paper or two published or a PhD earned. But in the six years since the last Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Charge (IPCC) report was released, the science and certainty of global warming has grown markedly. "In the first IPCC report in 1990 there were no real observations demonstrating that climate had changed, only a prognosis that it would change," says Herve Le Treut, atmospheric physicist at CNRS (France's National Center for Scientific Research) and a lead author of part of the fourth IPCC report set to be released on Friday. "By 2001, there were many signs that climate is changing and now we are already seeing the patterns described in the first IPCC report."

Simple observation confirms the basic science of climate change. "All six years since the last report (2001 to 2006) are among the seven warmest years on record," notes Kevin Trenberth, head of the Climate Analysis Section at the U.S. National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) and another lead author. "Northern Hemisphere snow cover has decreased and Arctic Sea ice has been at record low levels in the past three years."

In addition to such ice changes--accelerated melting in Greenland, western Antarctica and from mountain glaciers throughout the world--scientists have improved their understanding of the atmosphere's workings. For example, the tiny particles known as aerosols are far better understood, says atmospheric scientist Piers Forster of the University of Leeds in England andalso a lead author. "We estimate that their total radiative forcing is around -1.3 [watts/meter2]," which is a cooling effect, he says. "Because of this and a better understanding of how forcing terms add up, we are able to sum the radiative forcings and, for the first time, come up with the statement that we have very high confidence that humans have had a warming influence since preindustrial times." That influence continues via greenhouse gases from burning fossil fuels, and other sources; the temperature forcing from carbon dioxide levels has jumped 20 percent in just the last 10 years.

These observational improvements also extend into space, all the way to the sun, where scientists have used satellite data to better understand the amount of solar energy--and its impact here on Earth. "We therefore can make a comparison statement for the first time and say it is likely that solar forcing is at least five times smaller than the combined human influence," Forster continues. "Over the last 50 years, in particular, the natural forcing (solar plus volcanic) is most certainly negative. Meanwhile we've seen this large positive forcing from greenhouse gases."

"There are now three or four satellite temperature time series of the atmosphere, six years ago there was one. This duplication helped uncover some errors," adds lead author Thomas Peterson, a climate analyst with the U.S. National Ocean and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). "Correction of that error made the time series show more warming and is part of the reason why you no longer hear skeptics say that satellites don't show any warming."

In addition, tide gauges, satellite measurements and some 1,250 data-collecting buoys have improved information on oceans, the most important heat sink on Earth. "The oceanographic community now has a system of vertical profiling floats distributed through most of the world oceans that tells us the vertical distributions of temperature and salinity every 10 days to depths of one to two kilometers," says Sydney Levitus, director of NOAA's World Data Center for Oceanography and another lead author. "Sea level observations are telling us that during the past 100 years sea level has risen at an average rate of 1.7 millimeters per year," most of that due to thermal expansion as the top 700 meters of the oceans warms and expands. In fact, a paper in today's Science reveals that the 2001 IPCC report underestimated sea level rise as well as the average surface temperature--land and sea combined--for the globe.


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Re: Since politics has invaded forum-Who buys the Global Warming issue?
« Reply #63 on: January 24, 2008, 03:11:53 PM »

There is a way. The atmosphere ignites and burns all the oxygen.
Food for thought.

That's the fast way.  The long, painful and inhumane way is global warming and ozone holes causing greater UV and other problems that over the course of two or three generations causes all women to shrivel up and look like Rosie or Baba Wawa and men become unwilling to procreate for species preservation.  When this finally happens; god help the sheep ??? .






















(he didn't really just type that did he?)
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Re: Since politics has invaded forum-Who buys the Global Warming issue?
« Reply #64 on: January 24, 2008, 03:13:33 PM »

HD keeps making engines like they do today, it'll get hot much sooner than that around here!!! ::) :D :D :D

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Re: Since politics has invaded forum-Who buys the Global Warming issue?
« Reply #65 on: January 24, 2008, 03:15:25 PM »

That's the fast way.  The long, painful and inhumane way is global warming and ozone holes causing greater UV and other problems that over the course of two or three generations causes all women to shrivel up and look like Rosie or Baba Wawa and men become unwilling to procreate for species preservation.  When this finally happens; god help the sheep ??? .

(he didn't really just type that did he?)

Yeah, but what happens when the sheep start looking like Rosie and Baba Wawa? :o :P

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Re: Since politics has invaded forum-Who buys the Global Warming issue?
« Reply #66 on: January 24, 2008, 03:16:29 PM »

That's the fast way.  The long, painful and inhumane way is global warming and ozone holes causing greater UV and other problems that over the course of two or three generations causes all women to shrivel up and look like Rosie or Baba Wawa and men become unwilling to procreate for species preservation.  When this finally happens; god help the sheep ??? .

Interesting concept. :drink:
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Re: Since politics has invaded forum-Who buys the Global Warming issue?
« Reply #67 on: January 24, 2008, 03:17:46 PM »

Yeah, but what happens when the sheep start looking like Rosie and Baba Wawa? :o :P

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Well, d'uh.  It's global warming dammit.  We won't need warm clothes anymore.  Just leave them unsheared (unshorn? ah, to hell with it!)
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Re: Since politics has invaded forum-Who buys the Global Warming issue?
« Reply #68 on: January 24, 2008, 03:22:33 PM »

Surely you jest!  ;)

The UN is, but the IPCC is not.  

Perhaps you'd have more confidence in this one:

Here's another....  http://securityandclimate.cna.org/


The CNA Corporation brought together eleven retired three-star and four-star admirals and generals to provide advice, expertise and perspective on the impact of climate change. CNAC writers and researchers compiled the report under the board's direction and review.

The report includes several formal findings:

Projected climate change poses a serious threat to America's national security.
Climate change acts as a threat multiplier for instability in some of the most volatile regions of the world.
Projected climate change will add to tensions even in stable regions of the world.
Climate change, national security and energy dependence are a related set of global challenges.
The report also made several specific recommendations:

The national security consequences of climate change should be fully integrated into national security and national defense strategies.
The U.S. should commit to a stronger national and international role to help stabilize climate changes at levels that will avoid significant disruption to global security and stability.
The U.S. should commit to global partnerships that help less developed nations build the capacity and resiliency to better manage climate impacts.
The Department of Defense should enhance its operational capability by accelerating the adoption of improved business processes and innovative technologies that result in improved U.S. combat power through energy efficiency.
DoD should conduct an assessment of the impact on US military installations worldwide of rising sea levels, extreme weather events, and other possible climate change impacts over the next thirty to forty years.
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Re: Since politics has invaded forum-Who buys the Global Warming issue?
« Reply #69 on: January 24, 2008, 03:26:37 PM »

The UN is, but the IPCC is not.  

Perhaps you'd have more confidence in this one:

Here's another....  http://securityandclimate.cna.org/


The CNA Corporation brought together eleven retired three-star and four-star admirals and generals to provide advice, expertise and perspective on the impact of climate change. CNAC writers and researchers compiled the report under the board's direction and review.

The report includes several formal findings:

Projected climate change poses a serious threat to America's national security.
Climate change acts as a threat multiplier for instability in some of the most volatile regions of the world.
Projected climate change will add to tensions even in stable regions of the world.
Climate change, national security and energy dependence are a related set of global challenges.
The report also made several specific recommendations:

The national security consequences of climate change should be fully integrated into national security and national defense strategies.
The U.S. should commit to a stronger national and international role to help stabilize climate changes at levels that will avoid significant disruption to global security and stability.
The U.S. should commit to global partnerships that help less developed nations build the capacity and resiliency to better manage climate impacts.
The Department of Defense should enhance its operational capability by accelerating the adoption of improved business processes and innovative technologies that result in improved U.S. combat power through energy efficiency.
DoD should conduct an assessment of the impact on US military installations worldwide of rising sea levels, extreme weather events, and other possible climate change impacts over the next thirty to forty years.



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Re: Since politics has invaded forum-Who buys the Global Warming issue?
« Reply #70 on: January 24, 2008, 03:27:01 PM »

This is great. Lotsa hot air here contributing to this here Global Warming! :D :D :D

Here's a few more!

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« Reply #71 on: January 24, 2008, 03:27:34 PM »

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« Reply #72 on: January 24, 2008, 03:28:28 PM »

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Re: Since politics has invaded forum-Who buys the Global Warming issue?
« Reply #73 on: January 24, 2008, 03:29:00 PM »

Son of a bitch it's hard to work to try and hijack this thread....... :confused5:
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« Reply #74 on: January 24, 2008, 03:29:10 PM »

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