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[cdog]

How can you verify the construction date of your bike?

I bought mine in Apr. of 2007... Is it the old crank?

[Chief]

How can you verify the construction date of your bike?

I bought mine in Apr. of 2007... Is it the old crank?

Look on the sticker on the left side of the frame neck. There is a mfg date on that.

[grc]

How can you verify the construction date of your bike?

I bought mine in Apr. of 2007... Is it the old crank?

Look on the sticker on the left side of the frame neck. There is a mfg date on that.

You can also check the paperwork you received from the dealer; Harley normally includes a copy of the actual build sheet with the paperwork they send to the dealer, and in many cases the dealer passes that along.  If they didn't, ask them.  They may have it in their file.  The build sheet will get you the actual day, while the decal normally only shows the month and year.  This won't be the exact date the engine was assembled, but in this day of "just in time" inventory controls it shouldn't be off by more than a week or so.

Jerry

[Hoist!]

I didn't know their crappy pressed stroker crank was changed at all on the '07's?

Hoist!

[miker]

I didn't know their crappy pressed stroker crank was changed at all on the '07's?

Hoist!

Bwaaaa Haaa haaaa   

[FLTRCVO]

Runout Fact. Motor 1 (2600 miles) crank way out of tolerance / unacceptable limits per the HD Wrench at the Dealer, motor sent back to MoCo, crated motor (replacement) with original VIN cross shipped to dealer to install. Motor 2 (2200 miles later) flywheel / crank out of tolerance so bad the cam plate could not be removed. Again, Dealer sent motor back to MoCo and another motor with original VIN was cross shipped to the dealer to install. Another Fact via my experience with the Runout, both times the crank chit the bed I was in BFE.

[Chief]

Runout Fact. Motor 1 (2600 miles) crank way out of tolerance / unacceptable limits per the HD Wrench at the Dealer, motor sent back to MoCo, crated motor (replacement) with original VIN cross shipped to dealer to install. Motor 2 (2200 miles later) flywheel / crank out of tolerance so bad the cam plate could not be removed. Again, Dealer sent motor back to MoCo and another motor with original VIN was cross shipped to the dealer to install. Another Fact via my experience with the Runout, both times the crank chit the bed I was in BFE.

Sounds like you need to find better places to ride. 

[grc]

I didn't know their crappy pressed stroker crank was changed at all on the '07's?

Hoist!

Nope, still just pressed together, and still subject to an unspecified failure rate due to that fact and the nature of machining tolerances, moon status, etc.

Machining errors measured in the ten thousandths can cause a press fit assembly to fail.  I'm guessing that this was the cause of the big increase in failures, as opposed to a basic design flaw.  After all, the design goes back to the 1999 model and there hasn't been a big problem, even with heavily modified engines, until recently.  The stroker version of the crank has been used since the 103's debuted, once again with no major increase in failure rate until recently.  (Personally, I'd much rather have a one piece crank with two piece rods and bearings.)

Jerry

[MrMethane]

Wow, I just purchased a new flhtcuse3, and had it torn apart to add goodies, I asked to be present durring the tear down, while there asked them for a dial indicator and if they could put it on the end of the flywheel. result was .004" I understand the spec to .002", still waiting on a dealer call back, at any rate the crank will have to come out.

I have seen this for along time for many years and models. And it should be fixed. Whille its out, have it dynamicly balanced too. if if you have to chip in to have it checked!
its worth it, the MOCO claims to balance them too now, so maybe if they find it needs balanced they should foot the bill?

More to follow!


Ride safe bro!

[Hoist!]

Wow, I just purchased a new flhtcuse3, and had it torn apart to add goodies, I asked to be present durring the tear down, while there asked them for a dial indicator and if they could put it on the end of the flywheel. result was .004" I understand the spec to .002", still waiting on a dealer call back, at any rate the crank will have to come out.

I have seen this for along time for many years and models. And it should be fixed. Whille its out, have it dynamicly balanced too. if if you have to chip in to have it checked!
its worth it, the MOCO claims to balance them too now, so maybe if they find it needs balanced they should foot the bill?

More to follow!


Ride safe bro!

 Well guess what, just to deal with many bikes like yours, HD fixed your problem without lifting a finger to anything but type. Your spec for acceptable runout was changed to .012"!!! Aren't you lucky! Your motor that just a few months ago needed replacement, is now magically fine!!! Just don't go throwing a gear drive cam in it!

Hoist!

[grc]

Wow, I just purchased a new flhtcuse3, and had it torn apart to add goodies, I asked to be present durring the tear down, while there asked them for a dial indicator and if they could put it on the end of the flywheel. result was .004" I understand the spec to .002", still waiting on a dealer call back, at any rate the crank will have to come out.

I have seen this for along time for many years and models. And it should be fixed. Whille its out, have it dynamicly balanced too. if if you have to chip in to have it checked!
its worth it, the MOCO claims to balance them too now, so maybe if they find it needs balanced they should foot the bill?

More to follow!


Ride safe bro!

MOCO may claim a lot of things, but you believe them at your own peril.  They use the same crank assembly in the 96, 103, and 110 with a large assortment of stock and SE pistons.  They don't sell you a different part number crank based on the pistons you're using, you get the same crank as the next guy.  Their balance is based on a "guesstimate" of the average reciprocating weight, and I doubt their tolerances for balance are any tighter than they are for runout.  So if you want a precision crankshaft assembly, I'd suggest you find someone you can trust to build, true, and balance one for you. 

If you search for TT324 (Tech Tip) you should find Harley's "new and improved" version of the crank runout specs.  What you will find is that the new spec for runout, measured in the cases, is 0.012" max, not the 0.003" of years gone by.  It seems that it is now Harley's philosophy that a wobbling shaft that rapidly wears out your oil pump is something that will probably only fail after the warranty period has expired, and is therefore your problem and not theirs.   

Jerry