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Tips on pumping gas
« on: January 25, 2008, 10:00:42 PM »

I have not been able to verify but found this interesting. Heres the snopes link  http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/gastips.asp

 I don't know what you guys are paying for
 gasoline.... but here in California we are also paying higher, up to $3.50
 per gallon. But my line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so
 here are some tricks to get more of your money's worth for every gallon..
 
 

> Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I
> work in San Jose , CA we deliver about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period
> thru the pipeline. One day is diesel the next day is jet fuel, and gasoline,
> regular and premium grades. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total
> capacity of 16,800,000 gallons.
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> Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the
> early morning when the ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all
> service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder
> the ground the more dense the gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline
> expands, so buying in the afternoon or in the evening....your gallon is not
> exactly a gallon. In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the
> temperature of the gasoline, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other
> petroleum products plays an important role. A 1-degree rise in temperature
> is a big deal for this business. But the service stations do not have
> temperature compensation at the pumps.
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> When you're filling up do not squeeze the
> trigger of the nozzle to a fast mode. If you look you will see that the
> trigger has three (3) stages: low, middle and high. In slow mode you should
> be pumping on low speed, thereby minimizing the vapors that are created
> while you are pumping. All hoses at the pump have a vapor return. If you are
> pumping on the fast rate, some of the liquid that goes to your tank becomes
> vapor. Those vapors are being sucked up and back into the underground
> storage tank so you're getting less worth for your money.
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> One of the most important tips is to fill up
> when your gas tank is HALF FULL or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the
> more gas you have in your tank the less air occupying its empty space.
> Gasoline evaporates faster than you can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have
> an internal floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the
> gas and the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service
> stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is temperature
> compensated so that every gallon is actually the exact amount.
>
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>
> Another reminder, if there is a gasoline
> truck pumping into the storage tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill
> up--most likely the gasoline is being stirred up as the gas is being
> delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on
> the bottom. Hope this will help you get the most value for your money.
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> DO SHARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS!
 
 


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Re: Tips on pumping gas
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2008, 10:08:02 PM »

Thanks!
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Re: Tips on pumping gas
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2008, 10:10:14 PM »


Thanks for the info
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Re: Tips on pumping gas
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2008, 11:31:20 PM »

Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the ground temperature is still cold.

thereby minimizing the vapors that are created
All hoses at the pump have a vapor return.
when your gas tank is HALF FULL or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the more gas you have in your tank the less air occupying its empty space.

Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the storage tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill
> up--most likely the gasoline is being stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom.


On the first item I think this is bull, once you get about 6 feet below grade the earth temperature stays fairly consistent year round. It will change seasonally, but not daily. AKA "mean earth temperature".

As for the speed you are pumping ...if you pump 10 gallons in 2 minutes or 10 minutes, you are still pumping 10 gallons. If the vapors given off were that great the EPA would have stepped up the requirements a long time ago.
Not all pumps have vapor recovery. Seems more common in the northeast and left coast..
And the amount of gasoline you lose to vapor would probably equate to about the same amount you use extra by driving with the radio an heater on as opposed to being turned off.

The picture below is one sure way to waste gasoline

1/2 full or 1/2 empty, all fuel tanks on vehicles have caps with one way valves, air can only get into the tank, not escape. So the only chance for an evaporation loss is when you are filling up.

The last suggestion is a good point. Every time the delivery driver opens the ground cap a little dirt has a chance of getting in there.
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Re: Tips on pumping gas
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2008, 09:24:41 AM »

We are currently paying about $1.00/L for regular unleaded, which translates to about $3.79/gal.... a couple of months ago some places were charging about $1.35/L.

I think we converted to the metric system so that it looked like we were paying less!
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Re: Tips on pumping gas
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2008, 08:02:33 PM »


Great info....Thanks
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Re: Tips on pumping gas
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2008, 11:01:29 PM »

We are currently paying about $1.00/L for regular unleaded, which translates to about $3.79/gal.... a couple of months ago some places were charging about $1.35/L.

I think we converted to the metric system so that it looked like we were paying less!

Murphy,

Wow, that stinks.  We are paying about $2.65 per gallon.  What I don't get, is we are paying around $3.05 for diesel.  I can't understand why diesel is higher than gasoline. :nixweiss:
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Re: Tips on pumping gas
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2008, 08:56:45 AM »

Murphy,

Wow, that stinks.  We are paying about $2.65 per gallon.  What I don't get, is we are paying around $3.05 for diesel.  I can't understand why diesel is higher than gasoline. :nixweiss:

$3.25-$3.50 for Regular, and $3.50-$3.80 for Premium here in NYC! :nixweiss:

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Re: Tips on pumping gas
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2008, 09:38:36 AM »

I can't understand why diesel is higher than gasoline. :nixweiss:


Road tax has a lot to do with it
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Re: Tips on pumping gas
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2008, 11:38:21 AM »

$3.25-$3.50 for Regular, and $3.50-$3.80 for Premium here in NYC! :nixweiss:

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When gas was hitting the $2.00-$2.50ish range here in Syracuse there seemed to be a local AND national uprising in regards to this upward climb. At that point I suggested to my wife that we keep an eye out because I was afraid that what was really happening was the "Callous Effect". I was concerned that the uproar, especially by the media (let's face it they in some ways are running the country), was only going to be temporary and once time elapsed and there was no one to be heard the speculators and OPEC would raise the price to $4.00. Now look where we are. Any of the big media making any noise??

OK, so oil leads the "world" economy. I get it!! But what I don't get is why, given our history of sacrifice to keep the MAJORITY of the OPEC nations FREE, why are we settling for this blatant price gouging. Isn't the blood that been shed by our fellow Americans enough to expect that we're not being raped by these very same countries.  :soapbox:

Sorry for the rant but this pisses my off!  :furious3:  :wall:  :sauer005: And please before anyone suggests that we deserve it  :sauer021:
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Re: Tips on pumping gas
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2008, 03:14:24 PM »

I definately vote for no raping   :o

I got a good tip on pumping gas for my SEEG.  It is easier to see it going in the tank from the left than from the right.

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Re: Tips on pumping gas
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2008, 03:15:35 PM »



I got a good tip on pumping gas for my SEEG.  It is easier to see it going in the tank from the left than from the right.




I remember when happens when someone doesn't get it as full as they thought they did too ::) .
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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2008, 03:19:47 PM »


I remember when happens when someone doesn't get it as full as they thought they did too ::) .
I think I was the first member to post that they put 5.45 gallons in their tank.

And you know what?  I can not push a 700+ motorcycle off an exit ramp to the gas pumps.

Good memory.   ;)

Actually, before I hit post, even though things don't always go as smooth as we sometimes wish they would, the hurdles we overcome do make some pretty special memories.  I miss my good friend John (lugnut) 
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Re: Tips on pumping gas
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2008, 03:34:42 PM »

I think I was the first member to post that they put 5.45 gallons in their tank.

And you know what?  I can not push a 700+ motorcycle off an exit ramp to the gas pumps.

Good memory.   ;)

Actually, before I hit post, even though things don't always go as smooth as we sometimes wish they would, the hurdles we overcome do make some pretty special memories.  I miss my good friend John (lugnut) 


Couldn't agree more.  I still remember fondly that "helper" you guys were so fortunate to have come by when your charging system (or whatever it was that time) went on the fritz.  Most of the time we're lucky enough that would-be hassles get to be adventures and anecdotes for future enjoyment.  That this is so says something about the quality of the people involved.
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Re: Tips on pumping gas
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2008, 05:23:31 PM »

thanks  :2vrolijk_21:
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