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Re: Jester Rebuild From the Ground Up
« Reply #195 on: March 06, 2008, 10:26:52 AM »

Thanks Jim.
1. I did have some paper towel in the ports to soak up any drainage but they got removed for installation. Thanks for pointing that out.

2. The installation of the Wild1 575s made those grommets go away. Thw new width of the bars eat up all of the space and then some. The bars are actually touching the inner fairing inside the opening and the fairing cap had to be clearanced a bit to go over them, but only about 1/16th or 3/32nd. One other item I noted was that the metal brackets that hold the switches in the fairing cap is actually in contact with the bars, keeping the fairing cap from seating in 100%.

While I like the bars a lot and think they'll be great to ride with, they're not simply a plug-n-play upgrade. You have to be willing to do some modifications to make them fit. Most won't be immediately obvious, but there were a few surprises while doing the install.

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Hmmm..... as you might recall, my WO575 install was more troublesome than most (needed longer throttle/idle cables etc), but I have the grommets back in place. Somebody advocated trimming them with a craft knife, and like a fool, I did that without trying them first, and in fact they'd have gone on without trimming.   Some also said the chrome cover under the triple tree, over the new brakeline tee-piece wouldn't fit, and one guy (forget who) said he'd got it to go on by a little dremeling - mine went straight back on, no dremeling required!

Re the contact between the bars and the metal bracket, I can't quite visualise that, but again, no problem with mine in that respect!  (I did see somebody say they had contact between it and the one-piece bar clamp, but I suspect they made a bad choice of clamp - original recommendation around here was to go for the Custard Chrome one, but it was dearer (unbelievably!) than the HD one (!)  and there is a far more suitable HD one in any case, which is what I used (I believe it's stock on the 08 CUSE3)

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Re: Jester Rebuild From the Ground Up
« Reply #196 on: March 06, 2008, 10:52:59 AM »

Hmmm..... as you might recall, my WO575 install was more troublesome than most (needed longer throttle/idle cables etc), but I have the grommets back in place. Somebody advocated trimming them with a craft knife, and like a fool, I did that without trying them first, and in fact they'd have gone on without trimming.   Some also said the chrome cover under the triple tree, over the new brakeline tee-piece wouldn't fit, and one guy (forget who) said he'd got it to go on by a little dremeling - mine went straight back on, no dremeling required!

Re the contact between the bars and the metal bracket, I can't quite visualise that, but again, no problem with mine in that respect!  (I did see somebody say they had contact between it and the one-piece bar clamp, but I suspect they made a bad choice of clamp - original recommendation around here was to go for the Custard Chrome one, but it was dearer (unbelievably!) than the HD one (!)  and there is a far more suitable HD one in any case, which is what I used (I believe it's stock on the 08 CUSE3)

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It's funny how we all wind up with totally different situations using supposedly the same parts. I think I'm going to be able to get away with keeping the stock cables. I routed them through the hole next to the bars instead of through the fairing grommet.

I used the HD clamp and that worked out well.

As for the fairing cap, I first tried it with the rubbers in place. Once I removed them I realized the two pins to hold the rubber in place were hitting. I snipped those off and then found out that the opening itself hod to be relieved a bit to get the necessary clearance.

This picture shows the clearancing done to the opening on the left side.

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Re: Jester Rebuild From the Ground Up
« Reply #197 on: March 06, 2008, 11:06:17 AM »

It's looking really good!! Can't wait to see it with the fairing on.
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Re: Jester Rebuild From the Ground Up
« Reply #198 on: March 06, 2008, 11:10:50 AM »

Doesn't look that dissimilar to mine, Chuck - the bottom of the hole looks more "finished" with the rubbers in place, just, I think.  

Yes, TwoLane of this parish did the same - routed the throttle cables beside the bars, but I would be forever annoyed by the hole in the inner fairing then, so I went for the longer cables.

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Re: Jester Rebuild From the Ground Up
« Reply #199 on: March 06, 2008, 11:11:38 AM »

I have to post just once in this thread to move the updates into my "new replies" area.  I love the daily pictures Chief, keep 'em coming.  Great job so far.  How was it getting the motor and tranny onto the frame?  How many hands did it take?  Did you seperate them? (motor from tranny, not the hands)  :vrolijk_11:
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Re: Jester Rebuild From the Ground Up
« Reply #200 on: March 06, 2008, 11:18:00 AM »

the two pins to hold the rubber in place

 :nixweiss:  What sort of pins, Chuck?  I don't believe I saw them when doing mine!

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Re: Jester Rebuild From the Ground Up
« Reply #201 on: March 06, 2008, 11:20:27 AM »

I have to post just once in this thread to move the updates into my "new replies" area.  I love the daily pictures Chief, keep 'em coming.  Great job so far.  How was it getting the motor and tranny onto the frame?  How many hands did it take?  Did you seperate them? (motor from tranny, not the hands)  :vrolijk_11:

Thanks buddy. Yes, the motor and tranny were separate. The ceiling hoist is temporarily out of service so we had to do it the old fashioned way. The tranny was in first, located by the swing arm pivot shaft and sitting on a lot of foam padding on the cross member. One good bear hug on the motor and a spare pair of hands on the far side to help guide it in. With the bottom of the case sitting on the scissor jack, it wasn't that bad. The permanent oil filter mount does add to the degree of difficulty a bit as it has to clear the frame tube going in.

In hindsight, I wish I didn't have the tranny pinned in place. It would have been easier being able to slide the tranny to the motor instead of vice-versa.

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Re: Jester Rebuild From the Ground Up
« Reply #202 on: March 06, 2008, 11:21:55 AM »

:nixweiss:  What sort of pins, Chuck?  I don't believe I saw them when doing mine!

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Actually they're more like little plastic fangs that are used to hold the rubber grommets in place. They are right where I had to grind.

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Re: Jester Rebuild From the Ground Up
« Reply #203 on: March 06, 2008, 11:22:25 AM »

It's funny how we all wind up with totally different situations using supposedly the same parts....

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Are you ready to do mine?

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Re: Jester Rebuild From the Ground Up
« Reply #204 on: March 06, 2008, 11:23:35 AM »

Are you ready to do mine?

Second time HAS to be easier than the first go-round. :2vrolijk_21:

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Re: Jester Rebuild From the Ground Up
« Reply #205 on: March 06, 2008, 11:28:49 AM »

Are you ready to do mine?

I know---> thread jack
AJ, you feelin better?

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Re: Jester Rebuild From the Ground Up
« Reply #206 on: March 06, 2008, 11:46:44 AM »

I know---> thread jack
AJ, you feelin better?

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Chuck called me last night to give me the update before this post. I was coughing so much he finally just told me 'good night'.

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Re: Jester Rebuild From the Ground Up
« Reply #207 on: March 06, 2008, 12:04:54 PM »

Jim, like you I used the '08 clamps with my WOs but I still had problem with inner fairing cap as you did Chuck.  Fit OK without trimming but could not get the rubber grommets in.

Chuck please check your throttle / idle cables carefully esp at full lock.  If they are in a bind at all the strain can cause pre-mature failure.  My tech went with 4" over on all cables and lines - even extended some of my electrical because it was stressed.  These WOs are definitely not a 'bolt on' item and the variances in our bikes can cause some challenges.

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Re: Jester Rebuild From the Ground Up
« Reply #208 on: March 06, 2008, 12:10:08 PM »

Jim, like you I used the '08 clamps with my WOs but I still had problem with inner fairing cap as you did Chuck.  Fit OK without trimming but could not get the rubber grommets in.

Chuck please check your throttle / idle cables carefully esp at full lock.  If they are in a bind at all the strain can cause pre-mature failure.  My tech went with 4" over on all cables and lines - even extended some of my electrical because it was stressed.  These WOs are definitely not a 'bolt on' item and the variances in our bikes can cause some challenges.

Thanks Jerry. I looked at getting the cables for that very reason. Mine appear to be OK. Routing them in next to the bars frees up several inches. I'll just have to watch going WFO at full left lock. We wouldn't want them to stick like that. :)

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Re: Jester Rebuild From the Ground Up
« Reply #209 on: March 06, 2008, 12:21:31 PM »

I'll just have to watch going WFO at full left lock. We wouldn't want them to stick like that. :)

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