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[porthole]

http://www.abc15.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=8D60A1CF-5576-4490-8AC5-A78A26620AAD&gsa=true

I have only flown models;l but I wonder why you would apporach the runway skewed with what looks to be about 30-40 degrees off of the straight

You can full screen this one
http://www.liveleak.com/player.swf?autostart=false&token=ddb_1204404185

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/03/03/germany.plane/index.html

[ultrafxr]

Saw this on the news.  Thought the wind blew him off course.  Darn lucky he was able to go around and not auger in.

[Twolanerider]

I have only flown models;l but I wonder why you would apporach the runway skewed with what looks to be about 30-40 degrees off of the straight

Duane, crabbing in like that is what you've got to do when it's one hell of a crosswind.  Not fun.  That guy is good.  If the winds really were what I've read them reported to be over that runway I can't believe the field was even open. 

[vagabond6542]

They should have given him a runway that presented a head wind instead of a crosswind.
That pilot was good on the recovery and didn't loose his landing gear.

[110tHunDer]

 
Surprised he went as far as he did before pulling up.   That had to be a scary ride for the passengers.

[Twolanerider]

Surprised he went as far as he did before pulling up.   That had to be a scary ride for the passengers.

He was crabbing down the runway pretty straight.  Didn't look too ugly for a bit, though the wind had to be a bitch.  As much as that big bird suddenly dipped and dinked though he had not just a crosswind but some significant gusts going on too.  Stuff like that makes important parts hide up behind your belly button.

[porthole]

Crabbing is one thing, but at the crab angle he came in over the fence at I think I would land somewhere else. there are some pictures of the wing, significant damage, although he did keep the wheels on

[RJ749]

He's just the most recent and dramatic for sure in the 155 mph wind.  Here's a compilation of others including the Boeing 777 factory plane.

[Twolanerider]

Crabbing is one thing, but at the crab angle he came in over the fence at I think I would land somewhere else. there are some pictures of the wing, significant damage, although he did keep the wheels on

Wondered the same thing Duane.  He's in the middle of Europe for goodness sake.  There are airports to land that thing everywhere.  Get out of the gale and find a runway pointed in to the wind. 

We don't know what else was factoring in though.  Since he came around and put it right back down on the same runway you have to at least consider that for some reason the options were limited.  I'm just glad it wasn't me fighing that big bird in that wind.

[110tHunDer]

Captain:
"Hello, this is your captain speaking.  We're going to turn around and give it another try on the same runway."

Passengers:

[porthole]

Brian - your short 37 passengers

[Twolanerider]

He's just the most recent and dramatic for sure in the 155 mph wind.  Here's a compilation of others including the Boeing 777 factory plane.

Most of those were enough to take your breath away.  The consequences of course are much less dire in small aircraft.  But you pucker just has hard whether there's no one behind the bulkhead or a whole cabin full of passengers.  When you're crabbing down a runway getting right to kick it straight(er) at that last possible moment it wouldn't do any good for someone to tell you to remember to breathe; because you're sucking air no matter what.  Touch down and begin to roll out and have to yell "eFF'n A!"  Then you check your shorts.

[RJ749]

Most of those were enough to take your breath away.  The consequences of course are much less dire in small aircraft.  But you pucker just has hard whether there's no one behind the bulkhead or a whole cabin full of passengers.  When you're crabbing down a runway getting right to kick it straight(er) at that last possible moment it wouldn't do any good for someone to tell you to remember to breathe; because you're sucking air no matter what.  Touch down and begin to roll out and have to yell "eFF'n A!"  Then you check your shorts.

I have to chuckle when the passengers applaud on some of the landings in winds I have been on that I don't condsider that tough, but I can guarandamntee you I'd be applauding on the Hamburg deal and some of these others.

The pisser is if you're in Europe or Australia or Hong Kong etc. etc. you have no friggin' choice but to get back on one of those crates to get back home to the good ol' U S of A.

Hopefully your trip would have been long enough to have blocked the thoughts of your last landing. 

Keeping in mind any landing that was succesful is a good one.

I was in a Otter in Canada a few years back and the pilot did a quick safety briefing, he was about 75 years old (seriously) and his final note was the ceiling is a bit low today so you'll see a lot of trees out the windows.  He added' "don't worry about them unless you start to hear them!"

[Twolanerider]

Captain:
"Hello, this is your captain speaking.  We're going to turn around and give it another try on the same runway."

Passengers:

Not just the passengers Brian.  Coming in the second time gives just enough time and too many opportunities for your mind to go places it should not if you don't clamp it down.  I was landing a 182 (real small plane) full of skydivers who didn't jump because winds were just too bad one afternoon.  In the time we'd climbed up and out to the jump area it had gotten just worse and worse. 

Was a quartering tail wind coming over a strip with a single runway.  Hard to ask for much worse.  Don't remember how strong the winds were but the gusts were bouncing us all over the place. 

Had guys puking (once one starts it.....) on the deck and the whole thing stunk to high heaven before I made the first pass.  Crabbing down the runway fighting the gusts.  Then lo and behold just before I'm ready to kick it around and set it down here comes frakking Bambi across the runway.  So the next pass, landing in to the sun, I've got winds and a damn deer bouncing around inside my head.

That night I found a place that had wild game on the menu.  You want to guess what I ordered?

[Twolanerider]

I was in a Otter in Canada a few years back and the pilot did a quick safety briefing, he was about 75 years old (seriously) and his final note was the seiling is a bit low today so you'll see a lot of trees out the windows.  He added' "don't worry about them unless you start to hear them!"

I love the graybeards.  It's stupid to run them off when they've still got it.  Had a graybeard aerobatics instructor ask me early on if I ever got air sick?  Was in an open cockpit Citabria.  He went on to explain that he wanted to know so that if I did he could kick it inverted.  That way I could throw up down.