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Re: New 2009 Harley's
« Reply #300 on: May 30, 2008, 10:38:55 PM »

This is being aired out in great detail on the thread about a 2009 SE Road Glide

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I have been watching this but it is unfortunatle all about the Road glide
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Re: New 2009 Harley's
« Reply #301 on: May 31, 2008, 06:49:37 AM »

I'm sure this is not the 2009 surprise but service mgr said he was on the EPA site and there was mention of a H-D 2300 cc liquid cooled motor being checked out for EPA certs.
Didn't someone post an EPA application for a 131 ci liquid cooler a while back?
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Re: New 2009 Harley's
« Reply #302 on: May 31, 2008, 11:57:59 AM »

I honestly believe that if/when the MoCo introduces a liquid cooled motor outside of the V-Rod/Buell platforms it will be a single model issue the first year or so. And my bet is the Ultra-Classic. My gut tells me market research most likely indicates that UC owners are the most amenable to a sea change of that nature. So I suppose given that it looks like there's going to be two bagger models in the CVO lineup this year that the possibility exists that the SEUC will be the new water buffalo. Yes yes yes, it's all speculation and as my wise and sometimes wisea$$ friend Twolanerider pointed it, we have a lot of fun with it every year.

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Re: New 2009 Harley's
« Reply #303 on: May 31, 2008, 12:02:19 PM »

I honestly believe that if/when the MoCo introduces a liquid cooled motor outside of the V-Rod/Buell platforms it will be a single model issue the first year or so. And my bet is the Ultra-Classic. My gut tells me market research most likely indicates that UC owners are the most amenable to a sea change of that nature. So I suppose given that it looks like there's going to be two bagger models in the CVO lineup this year that the possibility exists that the SEUC will be the new water buffalo. Yes yes yes, it's all speculation and as my wise and sometimes wisea$$ friend Twolanerider pointed it, we have a lot of fun with it every year.

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There have been rumors abound that the MoCo has been working on a water-cooled bagger for about 4-5 years now, and beings that the MoCo likes to introduce "new" technologies/accessories in the CVO line-up, a water-cooled SEUC4WC wouldn't be all that far-fetched.  JMO.

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Re: New 2009 Harley's
« Reply #304 on: May 31, 2008, 12:36:01 PM »

There have been rumors abound that the MoCo has been working on a water-cooled bagger for about 4-5 years now, and beings that the MoCo likes to introduce "new" technologies/accessories in the CVO line-up, a water-cooled SEUC4WC wouldn't be all that far-fetched.  JMO.

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Hmmm.....Not only head oil leaks to contend with, but coolant leaks as well.
I think I will redo the garage floor next winter.  What do you bro's think? :nixweiss:
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Re: New 2009 Harley's
« Reply #305 on: May 31, 2008, 12:37:05 PM »

I honestly believe that if/when the MoCo introduces a liquid cooled motor outside of the V-Rod/Buell platforms it will be a single model issue the first year or so. And my bet is the Ultra-Classic. My gut tells me market research most likely indicates that UC owners are the most amenable to a sea change of that nature. So I suppose given that it looks like there's going to be two bagger models in the CVO lineup this year that the possibility exists that the SEUC will be the new water buffalo. Yes yes yes, it's all speculation and as my wise and sometimes wisea$$ friend Twolanerider pointed it, we have a lot of fun with it every year.

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No wise assed remarks in response here Brian.  I'm someone who is very interested in what they'll do with a water cooled engine.  Whether anyone likes it or not we know that environmental and other requirements mean we can't keep riding these antique motors forever.

Given Harley's penchant for such fine R&D leading to such exquisite new major product releases (ok, that was wise assed) I certainly wouldn't buy one of their fancy new water cooled engined bikes until they were on the road their third year.  But as a general concept I'm still very much interested in the idea and looking forward to seeing what they do.
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Re: New 2009 Harley's
« Reply #306 on: May 31, 2008, 12:39:58 PM »

Hmmm.....Not only head oil leaks to contend with, but coolant leaks as well.
I think I will redo the garage floor next winter.  What do you bro's think? :nixweiss:

Paint your floor black and that way you don't see the oil leaks.... 8) :P

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Re: New 2009 Harley's
« Reply #307 on: May 31, 2008, 12:43:41 PM »

Paint your floor black and that way you don't see the oil leaks.... 8) :P

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But, what about the coolant leaks??? :huepfenlol2:
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Re: New 2009 Harley's
« Reply #308 on: May 31, 2008, 12:46:02 PM »


But, what about the coolant leaks??? :huepfenlol2:

Green coolant makes really neat swirl patterns on black paint...wait a minute, maybe that wasn't the coolant........ ::) 8)

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Re: New 2009 Harley's
« Reply #309 on: May 31, 2008, 01:27:40 PM »



No wise assed remarks in response here Brian.  I'm someone who is very interested in what they'll do with a water cooled engine.  Whether anyone likes it or not we know that environmental and other requirements mean we can't keep riding these antique motors forever.

Given Harley's penchant for such fine R&D leading to such exquisite new major product releases (ok, that was wise assed) I certainly wouldn't buy one of their fancy new water cooled engined bikes until they were on the road their third year.  But as a general concept I'm still very much interested in the idea and looking forward to seeing what they do.

I loved my 05 SE V-Rod, so my mind is wide open to a bagger buffalo

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Re: New 2009 Harley's
« Reply #310 on: May 31, 2008, 05:19:21 PM »

To bad they do not take a look at what Victory is doing....and apply it to the 110
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Re: New 2009 Harley's
« Reply #311 on: May 31, 2008, 05:38:03 PM »

Don't think MOCO can use the "Water Buffalo" name, since Suzuki had a 750cc with that name back in the 70's, but maybe a "Screamin Eagle Ultra Caribou 1"  or something like that, more of zingy marketing ring to it huh?  :nixweiss:

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Re: New 2009 Harley's
« Reply #312 on: May 31, 2008, 05:58:50 PM »

Don't think MOCO can use the "Water Buffalo" name, since Suzuki had a 750cc with that name back in the 70's, but maybe a "Screamin Eagle Ultra Caribou 1"  or something like that, more of zingy marketing ring to it huh?  :nixweiss:




The term is generic to any bike with a radiator Joe.

I don't think Suziki trademarked it

Matter of fact I'll bet they weren't pleased with it being hung on their bike

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Re: New 2009 Harley's
« Reply #313 on: May 31, 2008, 10:15:35 PM »

To bad they do not take a look at what Victory is doing....and apply it to the 110



Seriously  Jerry,  we both  rode the Victorys in Sturgis and they sound alike, perform the same etc....??? You have to admit ...... I know we are still HD guys but...their engine is solid

So is the S&S 127 and they do not have ths issues that the 100 does.....When will HD engineers wake up??
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Re: New 2009 Harley's
« Reply #314 on: June 01, 2008, 10:37:39 AM »



Seriously  Jerry,  we both  rode the Victorys in Sturgis and they sound alike, perform the same etc....??? You have to admit ...... I know we are still HD guys but...their engine is solid

So is the S&S 127 and they do not have ths issues that the 100 does.....When will HD engineers wake up??
I don't think the HD engineers are asleep they are arrogant , if they didn't come up with it they don't want to use it.. As much as I really hate to say it I think spiderman is right a bagger makes allot of sense and all there competition is water cooled. The other reason it makes sense is if the build a trike they will need better cooling also.
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