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Re: New 2009 Harley's
« Reply #750 on: July 08, 2008, 04:27:40 PM »
Every HD I have owned(12+) has had some problems, this 110 issue is just a little bigger.  Anyone own a valve seat sucking Pan head...Leaks? Anyone own a shovel? I have, they did... Never had a Evo but heard the stories too...

The manual oil pump check valve stuck on my Flattie stuck open and pissed 2 quarts of fresh Morris non-detergent 60 wt oil all over the floor this week...Yup 74 years ago they were buliding leakers.  Have 380 miles on the new rebuild and that freakin Morris earl is big bucks!   :o  :'(  ;)  ;D  :drink:

Hang in there...if you love these things like I do, you'll put up with it..
 
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Re: New 2009 Harley's
« Reply #751 on: July 08, 2008, 04:28:14 PM »
Quote from: Hoist! on July 08, 2008, 04:27:06 PM
Good one chithead! ::) :P ;D

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Now that was funny right there.... ::)
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Re: New 2009 Harley's
« Reply #752 on: July 08, 2008, 04:35:47 PM »
Well, I am the happy owner of a 110 who was unhappy when the damn thing leaked.  So far I am the happy owner of a 110 that has been fixed (head gaskets/cylinders) that so far has not leaked AGAIN.  Know of 5 others - all 110's - that have been fixed by the local dealer.  As best I know, none have come back for repair.  This shop did not sell that many 2007 110 CVOs.  5 leakers out of less than 20 sold locally is significant.    And the mileage on the other 15 is racking up soooo......

As Chief noted I have also pointed out a few leakers to a few folks who did not know they were riding a leaker.  As 2LR noted, HD did not spend mega thousands on new head gaskets & all if they were figuring this was a "less than 1% problem" which would be more in line, statistically with failure expectations on engines.  Also, some have failed with more miles (mine at 17k) and others with just a few hundred.  So it is a PARTS failure related problem.  Will 100% of 110's - 07-08 experience this problem?  Possibly not but it is possible they will.  Some do not get ridden much, some get ridden a lot.

I like it up here on the  :soapbox:   You can almost see it's beer thirty from here......   :drink:
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Re: New 2009 Harley's
« Reply #753 on: July 08, 2008, 04:37:21 PM »
Ima slurppin T&T's...pppppfffftttt!  :pineapple:
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Re: New 2009 Harley's
« Reply #754 on: July 08, 2008, 04:39:13 PM »
Quote from: miker on July 08, 2008, 04:27:40 PM
Hang in there...if you love these things like I do, you'll put up with it..

And there it is...

I read Chief's post on how many guys he personally knew that have had issues, and I believe everyone of them still has their bike.  Some have done more evasive surgeries than others, but they still have their bike.  In fact, Gary correct me if I'm wrong, but I only recall reading about one guy who finally just threw in the towel, used them lemon law and returned his bike.  There could be more, I just remember that one.

We love these bikes.  I personally spend an inordinate amount of time riding, washing, polishing, tinkering, and just staring at my bike.  :nixweiss:

Oh, and don't forget Harley Davidson, Inc. is counting on us following Mike's statement.  ???
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Re: New 2009 Harley's
« Reply #755 on: July 08, 2008, 04:40:39 PM »
 :idea3:  The MoCo needs to contract with CVOHarley members to do quality control testing before any new product is released.  We know more about these bikes than the average rider and put more miles on them on average.

Some folks need to cool their britches - Just because you haven't had a problem with your 110 doesn't mean your turn isn't coming.  A 5% or less failure rate might be considered acceptable.  Someone mentioned a 30% failure rate - I am guessing this may be a conservative number.  One thing is for sure....the MoCo ain't never going to leak those numbers, so all we have to go on are the folks on this forum and the other 110 owners that we come across.

The problems are obvious....Head Gaskets - Cylinder Base Gaskets - Crank.  When there are obvious reoccurring problems, you would think a large corporation would step up to the plate and make things right.  A problem with a product is only an inconvenience until the company that produced the product refuses to acknowledge the problem and take steps to correct the problem.  The MoCo is treading on thin ice - They are messing with a "customer loyalty" that has been built over a 105 years.

To those that have not had a problem with their 110, best of luck!  I sincerely hope you never have any of the reoccurring problems that so many of us have had.  But, if and when you do, we will be here to listen and offer advise to get you through it - that's what we do here ;)
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Re: New 2009 Harley's
« Reply #756 on: July 08, 2008, 04:45:21 PM »
New bike used to have drip pans under then in the showroom...people still bough em.

You can figure 100% rate of failure of some sort...So far I seem to be the only one with the chitty electric box..
It took about 2 hours to beep it out and fix the crummy terminations in the harness and box...I was still more pizzed at the sealant that never dried under my dash panel gasket, what a pita to clean and reapply a correct material...   :huepfenjump3:
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Re: New 2009 Harley's
« Reply #757 on: July 08, 2008, 04:46:37 PM »
The poolboy's nephew just fax'd a "secret new product development report" to address HD's perceived deficiencies in new product development and consumer handling.  It's all going to be subcontracted to Zippers.  May God help us all.
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Re: New 2009 Harley's
« Reply #758 on: July 08, 2008, 04:48:00 PM »
That'd be cool.  Accessories AND parts kits to fix deficiencies
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Re: New 2009 Harley's
« Reply #759 on: July 08, 2008, 04:49:04 PM »
Quote from: miker on July 08, 2008, 04:45:21 PM
New bike used to have drip pans under then in the showroom...people still bough em.

You can figure 100% rate of failure of some sort...So far I seem to be the only one with the chitty electric box..
It took about 2 hours to beep it out and fix the crummy terminations in the harness and box...I was still more pizzed at the sealant that never dried under my dash panel gasket, what a pita to clean and reapply a correct material...   :huepfenjump3:

Are you refering to the "sticky booger snot". No joke, that's what it was refered to by HD Tech Service.

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Re: New 2009 Harley's
« Reply #760 on: July 08, 2008, 04:50:14 PM »
"subcontracted to Zippers"


That does it.


I am setting my hair on fire (what's left of it) & running for the hills screaming.......






or











I'll have a beer & then have another beer just in case the first one did not take.













Beer thirty here!     :drink: :drink: :drink:
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Re: New 2009 Harley's
« Reply #761 on: July 08, 2008, 04:50:28 PM »
Quote from: Hoist! on July 08, 2008, 04:27:06 PM
Good one chithead! ::) :P ;D

Hoist! 8)

Yea, that was kind of uncalled for, wasn't it Hoist!
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Re: New 2009 Harley's
« Reply #762 on: July 08, 2008, 04:52:29 PM »
Quote from: 07hd110 on July 08, 2008, 04:50:28 PM
Yea, that was kind of uncalled for, wasn't it Hoist!
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Oops, my bad Tommy! ::) :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3:

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Re: New 2009 Harley's
« Reply #763 on: July 08, 2008, 04:58:11 PM »
Quote from: Hoist! on July 08, 2008, 04:52:29 PM
Oops, my bad Tommy! ::) :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3:

Hoist! 8)

No!  I was referring to Firedood's post!
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Re: New 2009 Harley's
« Reply #764 on: July 08, 2008, 05:00:40 PM »
You guys are posting stuff that is off topic again.



Of course I never post off topic, except maybe for this post, which is Off Topic but that is the topic of this post, Off Topic.
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