Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[sadunbar]

IF the Jim's doesn't hold up, I'm putting a diesel engine in it.

Holy chit - that diesel is expensive stuff!  You must be made of $$$'s!   

[SBB]

IF the Jim's doesn't hold up, I'm putting a diesel engine in it.

Ken

The Jim's will be fine!

SBB

[SBB]

Holy chit - that diesel is expensive stuff!  You must be made of $$$'s!   

Tell me!
I'm doing two $150.00 fill ups a week plus buying fuel for the equipment.

                       

[sadunbar]

Tell me!
I'm doing two $150.00 fill ups a week plus buying fuel for the equipment.

                       

Yeah, but you got the beans!!  hehe   

[owenja]

If the mc authorizes an new 110" motor and one opts for the Jims,  does anyone here know the price we would pay?  I've been watching all of this with intrest and have gone through it once at about 9,500 miles.  I now have 12K+ with no leak but if it happens again I'm thinking about pushing them for a new motor and would like to know the price difference. 

At least we would have a proven stable design even if we only get a 1 year warranty.

Jim

[HogBreath]

If the mc authorizes an new 110" motor and one opts for the Jims,  does anyone here know the price we would pay?  I've been watching all of this with intrest and have gone through it once at about 9,500 miles.  I now have 12K+ with no leak but if it happens again I'm thinking about pushing them for a new motor and would like to know the price difference. 

At least we would have a proven stable design even if we only get a 1 year warranty.

Jim

All I know for sure is I can buy the Jim's engine for $6,800. I don't even know the value of a new HD 110 engine. I do know if I was in HD's shoes, I'd be looking at net cost of what a new 110 engine costs versus retail price. I'd guess I'll be lucky to get $2,000-$2,500 monies to apply towards a Jim's engine. Labor to switch the engine's should be 100% covered.

[skreminegul07]

My SM told me that when HS swaps a motor, they send it without normal invoice etc. and do not pay the dealer for it.  The dealer makes nothing on the motor except labor, no normal markup.  HD pays the deler retail for warranty parts and of couse the dealer buys them from HD at discount, but they make some money on the parts.
It seems in this case, you buy the JIMs motor, but get to take home the replacement 110"       
which will have your VIN on it.  HD will pay the labor.
  I'm not sure if the Jims motor's get stamped with your VIN, 
if yes, this theory may not hold up.

[Hoist!]

You get an MSO for the Jims engine and not your original S/N on it. This is not a street legal motor, nor is it a HD motor. It's an aftermarket engine that HD licenses Jims to build using their current design platform, and is only available thru HD dealers. No other aftermarket crate engines are available for these bikes. Theoretically you'd have to get the bike re-VIN'd if you really wanted it legit. But taping a copy of the MSO to the bottom of your seat and always having it with you should be good enough. But it might effect resale of the bike someday, since you have no engine tied to the VIN anymore. In Ken's case, he was only getting a rebuilt engine from HD. So he's taking all the costs associated with the new parts he needs, and all the labor, and putting that toward the Jims. He will not wind up with a new 110 engine with his S/N. He'll have his original POS broken 110 to take up space in his garage. But I wouldn't get rid of them cases with his S/N on it tied to his VIN.

Hoist!

[skreminegul07]

You get an MSO for the Jims engine and not your original S/N on it. This is not a street legal motor, nor is it a HD motor. It's an aftermarket engine that HD licenses Jims to build using their current design platform, and is only available thru HD dealers. No other aftermarket crate engines are available for these bikes. Theoretically you'd have to get the bike re-VIN'd if you really wanted it legit. But taping a copy of the MSO to the bottom of your seat and always having it with you should be good enough. But it might effect resale of the bike someday, since you have no engine tied to the VIN anymore. In Ken's case, he was only getting a rebuilt engine from HD. So he's taking all the costs associated with the new parts he needs, and all the labor, and putting that toward the Jims. He will not wind up with a new 110 engine with his S/N. He'll have his original POS broken 110 to take up space in his garage. But I wouldn't get rid of them cases with his S/N on it tied to his VIN.

Hoist!

Howie, I see a different scenario:

I have a bad motor that the MOCO will replace and pay the labor.  MOCO sends a new 110" motor with VIN, and pays dealer labor to have it installed, gaskets, o rings etc.
I then buy a Jims motor from the dealer.  He installs the Jim's at no cost, follow?   I then take home a new 110" engine and the bike with the Jim's.
My cost then is the cost of the engine, but I have a new motor with VIN in the garage.
Why would it not work that way?
Everyone is happy, almost.  Now you could swap it back before selling and its a new matching motor!

[Hoist!]

Howie, I see a different scenario:

I have a bad motor that the MOCO will replace and pay the labor.  MOCO sends a new 110" motor with VIN, and pays dealer labor to have it installed, gaskets, o rings etc.
I then buy a Jims motor from the dealer.  He installs the Jim's at no cost, follow?   I then take home a new 110" engine and the bike with the Jim's.
My cost then is the cost of the engine, but I have a new motor with VIN in the garage.
Why would it not work that way?
Everyone is happy, almost.  Now you could swap it back before selling and its a new matching motor!

That's what Ken was hoping for. But now HD is rebuilding his instead of replacing it. He can still tell them to rebuild it, but he'd have to pay full price for the Jim's motor, instead of putting the P&L $$ from that motor rebuild toward the Jim's. Why pay to have that new POS sitting on the floor. He'll never use it again except to sell the bike.

Hoist!

[HogBreath]

Latest update.

The new Jim's 120 engine is in the bike. I elected to have D&D 2:1 exhaust put on with the wrapped performance muffler. It just came in yesterday. It is scheduled to be installed today or tomorrow. The power commander will come off and the stock ECM will be remapped with a SERT. If it runs fine like that, I may leave it, or I may add the PC back to it and have John Golden do a dyno tune on it. It's been so long since I've even seen this bike I don't remember what it looks like. It was taken into the shop the tuesday after we got back from CopperHead Lodge, April 1st.  I still have no idea on how the warranty will be applied towards this Jims engine or how much $ it will cost.  I just hope the bike runs good and NO MO problems.

[Hoist!]

Latest update.

The new Jim's 120 engine is in the bike. I elected to have D&D 2:1 exhaust put on with the wrapped performance muffler. It just came in yesterday. It is scheduled to be installed today or tomorrow. The power commander will come off and the stock ECM will be remapped with a SERT. If it runs fine like that, I may leave it, or I may add the PC back to it and have John Golden do a dyno tune on it. It's been so long since I've even seen this bike I don't remember what it looks like. It was taken into the shop the tuesday after we got back from CopperHead Lodge, April 1st.  I still have no idea on how the warranty will be applied towards this Jims engine or how much $ it will cost.  I just hope the bike runs good and NO MO problems.

It's about friggin time! Good luck bro!!!

Hoist!

[iski]

Ken, Sincerely hope this is the best $750 you have spent on your bike.  Bet it'll run like a scalded dog.......   

Mike

[HogBreath]

Thanks guys. Time will tell if this was the right thing to do or not. I'm not sure I can remember how to ride a bagger after being on a V-rod for over 2 months.

[SBB]

Thanks guys. Time will tell if this was the right thing to do or not. I'm not sure I can remember how to ride a bagger after being on a V-rod for over 2 months.

You adapted well to the SERG.
Only concern I had was if you was to stop at the Home Depot and get a chainsaw and lower the windshield.

 


But I have to add,
You riding it was the first time I ever followed that bike.
I thought it looked very good!
Thanks for letting me see it!