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Filtermag to collect metal trash in engine
« on: May 21, 2008, 04:09:17 PM »

Salesman came in today and showed me this gem. I like the looks of it, anybody used them? They have 2 models for HD filters. The ss250 has 75lbs of pull force and the race version, the ra250 has 150lbs of pulling force. I figure if it helps pull the trash it can't hurt. If you guys have used them or wanna try em, I can look into getting a good price on em. I think I may put one on mine. Website is here www.filtermagindustrial.com

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Re: Filtermag to collect metal trash in engine
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2008, 04:30:55 PM »

From the pictures they look like they are externally applied to the filter, that might look weird.  :nixweiss:
I'd think they are geared more to heavy, heavy duty applications where the components are much more costly (not that fixing Harley equipment isn't cheap).
A better investment may end up being a high-performance long life filter.
How much are they?
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Re: Filtermag to collect metal trash in engine
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2008, 04:37:52 PM »

I just checked here and they only showing applications up to 2002 for Harley-Davidson at a price of $54.95.

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Re: Filtermag to collect metal trash in engine
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2008, 04:41:50 PM »

The sample I saw for HD filters fit less than 1/2 the way around the filter and was about 1-3/4 tall or long. They look trick enough to not be visually obtrusive. They come in red with stainless shield or black with stainless shield. It could probably be placed in such a way it wouldn't be visable if you so desired. I'm looking for feedback from anyone who may have used them or had any experience with them.

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Re: Filtermag to collect metal trash in engine
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2008, 04:46:45 PM »

DooD, I'd have to check the canister dia to see if they would work on later models, I will take a look at mine tonight to see if it would work. My selling price would be around $34 for the black with 75LBS pull and $42 for the red with 150lbs pull unless I work on them for a better cost.

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Re: Filtermag to collect metal trash in engine
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2008, 04:47:58 PM »

I would think the '02 application would work w/any TC don't know why it stopped there. :confused5:

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Re: Filtermag to collect metal trash in engine
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2008, 04:53:33 PM »

Yup I agree, webmaster probably quit... :drink:

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Re: Filtermag to collect metal trash in engine
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2008, 05:08:00 PM »

here is the question......

how much magnetic material in the engine???

cylinder sleeves, piston rings only , needle bearings, main bearings,  crank???.......

ok most of the wear parts are magnetic the rest of the engine is non magnetic
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Re: Filtermag to collect metal trash in engine
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2008, 10:24:48 AM »

Why do you need a magnet to trap the material,,,, Ain't that the filters job anyway??? :-\ ,,, figure,, how many microns do the filters stop,,,,,, I guess if you want to collect iron dust it's o.k.
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Re: Filtermag to collect metal trash in engine
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2008, 01:42:01 PM »

Is iron dust abrasive?    :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss:

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Re: Filtermag to collect metal trash in engine
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2008, 02:19:47 PM »

I think the filter alone does all that needs to be done.  How many engines have you heard of that are worn out because of metal circulating through it?  -Only if a bearing fails.  The magnet is not going to stop that. 
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Re: Filtermag to collect metal trash in engine
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2008, 03:03:57 PM »

Products like this remind me of all those fuel saving devices that flooded the market back in the 70's.  I once calculated that if I installed the top 5 devices (based on claimed savings) I would have to pull over and syphon out the excess fuel every 50 miles or so to keep the tank from overflowing.  

If you actually have that much metal floating around in your oil, I suggest you save the money and apply it toward the overhaul that will be needed in the near future.  If you want to buy magnets, buy the one that you apply to the fuel line to "condition" the fuel and improve your mileage. ???

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Re: Filtermag to collect metal trash in engine
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2008, 03:11:02 PM »

Salesman came in today and showed me this gem. I like the looks of it, anybody used them? They have 2 models for HD filters. The ss250 has 75lbs of pull force and the race version, the ra250 has 150lbs of pulling force. I figure if it helps pull the trash it can't hurt. If you guys have used them or wanna try em, I can look into getting a good price on em. I think I may put one on mine. Website is here www.filtermagindustrial.com

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Bet you could get the same effect with a rare earth magnet...  I have a few quarter sized ones (dangerous little buggers!) and I was thinking just this morning about putting one on the end of the SERK's filter to collect metal. 

I will do it and see what it collects, I am changing the oil/trans and primary this weekend.  Not my original idea, got this when I was poking around looking for Oil Analysis companies and found it on a site all about automotive oil.

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Re: Filtermag to collect metal trash in engine
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2008, 03:36:55 PM »

Bet you could get the same effect with a rare earth magnet...  I have a few quarter sized ones (dangerous little buggers!) and I was thinking just this morning about putting one on the end of the SERK's filter to collect metal

I will do it and see what it collects, I am changing the oil/trans and primary this weekend.  Not my original idea, got this when I was poking around looking for Oil Analysis companies and found it on a site all about automotive oil.

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How are you going to determine which particles had already been stopped by the filter, and which ones would have gone on through the engine?  Personally, if I were going to install a magnet to trap ferrous particles I would install it on the return side of the oil system, prior to the oil pump.  Why let all those particles damage the pressure side of the pump and then collect them at the filter?

I believe a much more effective approach would be a magnetic oil pan.  Maybe a magnetic steel panel on the bottom of the aluminum pan that could be unbolted and removed for cleaning every 100,000 miles or major overhaul, whichever comes first.  ;) 

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Re: Filtermag to collect metal trash in engine
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2008, 04:19:33 PM »

How are you going to determine which particles had already been stopped by the filter, and which ones would have gone on through the engine?  Personally, if I were going to install a magnet to trap ferrous particles I would install it on the return side of the oil system, prior to the oil pump.  Why let all those particles damage the pressure side of the pump and then collect them at the filter?

I believe a much more effective approach would be a magnetic oil pan.  Maybe a magnetic steel panel on the bottom of the aluminum pan that could be unbolted and removed for cleaning every 100,000 miles or major overhaul, whichever comes first.  ;) 

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Yeah, but you probably also have a Magnetic plug already, not as grand a scale as your idea. 

I was indicating that you could do the same thing as the Filtermag...with rare earth magnet.

Just a thought....

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