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Chris B

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Basics for improved performance
« on: June 29, 2008, 09:58:07 PM »

I just picked up my new SE Ultra Classic this Saturday, only managed to get  a couple hundred miles on it this weekend but had fun. I traded my 03 Ultra in and there is quiet a difference in the feel/ride between the two, the 08 seems a lot smoother.

I have been reading all the posts and I am trying to decide what I want to do with the pipes and other performance items, I am not trying to be the fastest bike out there just want a nice sound and have the bike breathe like it should. If you would let me know what you would do or have done to achieve same with your bike, after writing the check for the bike I am trying to keep the extras to a minimum as I am sure you all understand.

Thanks in advance for any replies,

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Re: Basics for improved performance
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2008, 10:08:33 PM »

Chris,
First off welcome to the site glad to have you join us. :2vrolijk_21: In regards to pipes it's all subjective to what you like and also looks play into it. As for sound the best way to find out what you want is to listen to as many different pipes as you can and fine one that suits you. If you will have a BSR (Back Seat Rider) with you a lot you may want them to hear the pipes also as they will be closer to the "business" end of the pipes. There are many different options out there in true duals and two into one (some of the two into ones even have "ghost pipe" option). Along w/pipes you will need to consider getting more air to the motor with some type of Stage 1 breather system either in the MoCo version or aftermarket. Last and not least you will need some type of device to adjust your ECM (PCIII, SERT, Super SERT).

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Re: Basics for improved performance
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2008, 12:49:01 AM »

I added the SE SuperTrapp slipons which are advertised as being 3db louder than stock, but that's being a little conservative and they are not broken in yet. However IMO, at idle and low RPM, they have that "old school" rumble that sounds fantastic and once up to speed they level out really nice. Rolling the throttle lets you know they mean business and I still find myself listening to how cool the bike sounds. They are however a different length than stock and leave the pipe about 4 inch exposed to the end of the heat shield. I am looking for a 1 piece shield, a filler pece or will have to fab something up, but love that sound. Along with the Super Tuner, Stage 1 a/c,new cover, and dyno, it's all I expected and more. :orange: ;D
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Re: Basics for improved performance
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2008, 12:59:01 AM »

Get it breathing right, SE or Arlen Ness A/C, and a GOOD exhaust system of your choice.  Find yourself a good reputable tuner to dial in your mods, and you should be good to go.  Keep in mind the challenges presented by that 110 tho'.  "SUPPOSEDLY" there is a fix in the works.  I hope that's true.
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Re: Basics for improved performance
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2008, 01:12:15 AM »

it all depends.........

which do you prefer??????

Blonds, Brunettes or Redheads

my opinion, go to an HD event/ride and listen to what other bikes have. Most riders are more than willing to light them up for someone interested.
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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2008, 01:23:25 AM »

it all depends.........

which do you prefer??????

Blonds, Brunettes or Redheads

my opinion, go to an HD event/ride and listen to what other bikes have. Most riders are more than willing to light them up for someone interested.

Thought to be considered also, how friendly is your dealership.  When making mods, will he honor the warranty?
You don't want to loose the warranty. I got a second engine out of mine.

Nice looking bike. :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Basics for improved performance
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2008, 08:23:50 AM »

supertrapp se slip ons, screamin eagle breather and K&N air filter, sert,  hopefully you will find a very good very knowledgeable tuner in your area
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Re: Basics for improved performance
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2008, 10:30:33 AM »

Welcome to the site and congrats on your new ride.  :2vrolijk_21:  I'd only echo what d00d stated.  Definitely, though, you need to get the air/fuel ratio (AFR) down.  The 110 comes from the factory at a very lean 14.7 AFR to meet EPA certification.  That will cause the engine to run hotter then it should.  Putting on freer flowing pipes and air cleaner so the engine breathes better will cause it to run even leaner, so it's crucial to get it tuned, either via SERT, PCIII, TMaxx, or whatever, to bring the AFR down and get the optimum performance/rideability out of the engine.

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Re: Basics for improved performance
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2008, 10:54:09 AM »

Chris B welcome aboard  :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Basics for improved performance
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2008, 03:31:07 PM »

I can agree with all of the above and also reinforce the cooperation of your dealer may be important later.
I did lot's of research before I modified my 103" 2006 Ultra but I decided upon the Arlen Ness Big Sucker Stage one air cleaner setup. I also kept the stock headpipes to keep the low to midrange torque vs. true duals but opened up the exhaust with S&S SPO slip on mufflers. The dealership still had a race download for the 2006 bike which dealt with the more open intake and exhaust vs. stock setup and they did all installs. This setup has worked great for me and the dealership stated they would honnor any and all extended warranties sine they provided the parts and did the installs.
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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2008, 03:35:40 PM »

I can agree with all of the above and also reinforce the cooperation of your dealer may be important later.
I did lot's of research before I modified my 103" 2006 Ultra but I decided upon the Arlen Ness Big Sucker Stage one air cleaner setup. I also kept the stock headpipes to keep the low to midrange torque vs. true duals but opened up the exhaust with S&S SPO slip on mufflers. The dealership still had a race download for the 2006 bike which dealt with the more open intake and exhaust vs. stock setup and they did all installs. This setup has worked great for me and the dealership stated they would honnor any and all extended warranties sine they provided the parts and did the installs.

That was my point earlier in this thread. The warranty has to be protected when making upgrades. OR, you are $hit out of luck when comes to failure time. :nervous:

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Re: Basics for improved performance
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2008, 03:57:53 PM »

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Re: Basics for improved performance
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2008, 07:16:48 PM »

Yea well I had to downgrade the house to buy the bike, but at least I have my priorities straight. ;D

Thanks for all the input from everyone, only have around 400 miles on it so far. I ordered a pair of the NightRider CO2 cables, seemed like a good way to get some extra fuel in the mix while I make up my mind on what I want to do long term. After riding my 03 with an 88 the last 5 years the 110" is great, seems like the 40-80 MPH acceleration is much better.

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Re: Basics for improved performance
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2008, 07:48:41 PM »

My 08 has JUST broken in with just under 5K
running like a raped ape now
sounds great
loud enough yet tolerable on long rides
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certainly not a racer with a 900+ lb bike and my fat a$$ on it , but
another Ultra would be hard pressed to leave me in the dust
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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2008, 08:38:52 PM »

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