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Re: Vaule of a 1999 FXR2
« Reply #270 on: August 03, 2008, 10:54:36 PM »

 
D@mn, George!  That bike is sweet, now! :2vrolijk_21:  You done good, buddy!  I'm thinkin' we neeed a FXR2/3/4 GTG soon, and if Hoist! gets his deal put together soon, maybe it'll be NYC, whaddaya think?!?!
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Re: Vaule of a 1999 FXR2
« Reply #271 on: August 03, 2008, 10:55:42 PM »

I just posted two replies but I guess they didn't post.. Thanks Blaine
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Re: Vaule of a 1999 FXR2
« Reply #272 on: August 03, 2008, 10:57:24 PM »

TY, Brian. I'm having a comp. problem, Its running very erratic
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Re: Vaule of a 1999 FXR2
« Reply #273 on: August 03, 2008, 10:59:28 PM »

Big 10-4 Brian, that'll great!!! 
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Re: Vaule of a 1999 FXR2
« Reply #274 on: August 04, 2008, 12:06:23 AM »

Pats George on the back.....now that's the way to take a photo of your bike....FRONT TIRE always POINTED FORWARD....which is the "natural" motion of the bike thus creating the best "lines" for the bike....now you just need to get down at a 45 degree angle as well.....

GEORGE, CONGRATULATIONS....I mean isn't it AWESOME....I truly hope you have as much fun with your "CVO" FXR3 as we all here have with ours....I truly hope it's not an illusive feeling, that it's everything you were/are hoping for.....

All you guys crack me up.....laughing.....

[I wish I knew someone that wanted a Emerald Green FXR3, there is one in Denver for sale for only $10,500 with 4,000 miles.....]

Hoist if you really absolutely wanted the very best front end on the FXR, I probably would have suggested the FXDX forks which both are cartridged forks.....although changing the fork fluid would be much more involved, however over @ the History of the FXR thread I just read that you stated, ".......I know it needs Traxxion/bitubos, ......." so perhaps let's bring the classroom back in session, I am listening again.....now what is this.....   :nixweiss:

Thanks for educating me....once again.....

By the way on my FXR2, I am running a Custom Cycle Engineering Chrome Fork/Truss Brace, Drag Specialties Part #DS 222707 along with putting 10 oz of Bel~Ray 20w Fork Oil into each of the fork legs.  I am actually not experiencing any "dive" qualities when applying brakes under any circumstance, I did however feel such with a 2003 FXDL after purchasing it new and quickly changed out the "OEM" springs to "Progressive" springs, although I could never tell you what weight or amount of fork oil was changed in that bike when this "modification" was performed.  Not only am I not experiencing "dive" with my FXR2, I am extremely satisfied with it's handling characteristics, I am not sharing this to sound "defiant" or boastful about the handling of my bike....but to at least provide a parameter of what my expectations are for the handling of my FXR2 as well as what other situations I have discovered providing a "bench mark" for others to compare to.....

I am also running 11 oz of Bel~Ray 20w Fork Oil along with race tech emulators in my 2002 RKC and that bike handles extremely well with such modifications, although I must admit that when I first acquired the RKC the bike was diving away from me under many different circumstances and when I changed the fork oil I also changed the Springs from the progressive "wound" oem spring to a new Race Tech Emulator Spring along with the weight of the fluid to Bel~Ray 20w Fork Oil inclusive of also putting in the Race Tech Emulators as I just mentioned above so I am truly unable to point to what caused the "significant" and "specific" improvement I have experienced, whether it was the combined effects from these "3" modifications or whether it should be attributed to merely only "1" of the "3". It's hard to tell for sure.....I simply state this because too often in our "impatience" of the amount of "time" involved we make changes from one thing to another in HUGE steps instead of "incremental" steps to see where the largest portion of credit should be placed when experiencing an improvement....so my R&D on this matter is of little use to another unless on a RKC they do exactly as I did....whereas perhaps only the fork oil needs to be changed, or the spring, or if in fact all "3" of the changes create the most important positive feedback....So going back to my FXR2, I can tell you the bike handles extremely well with Bel~Ray 20w Fork Oil to a level of 10 oz with the "oem" spring and I guess what I am saying is I have had enough "bad" experiences prior with my RKC as well as my 2003 Dyna Low Rider to know when the front forks are failing to perform as one should expect them to.  So now I am looking forward to learning about what I asked above....I shared all of this for back ground purposes....lol...

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Re: Vaule of a 1999 FXR2
« Reply #275 on: August 04, 2008, 07:24:09 AM »

Pats George on the back.....now that's the way to take a photo of your bike....FRONT TIRE always POINTED FORWARD....which is the "natural" motion of the bike thus creating the best "lines" for the bike....now you just need to get down at a 45 degree angle as well.....

GEORGE, CONGRATULATIONS....I mean isn't it AWESOME....I truly hope you have as much fun with your "CVO" FXR3 as we all here have with ours....I truly hope it's not an illusive feeling, that it's everything you were/are hoping for.....

All you guys crack me up.....laughing.....

[I wish I knew someone that wanted a Emerald Green FXR3, there is one in Denver for sale for only $10,500 with 4,000 miles.....]

Hoist if you really absolutely wanted the very best front end on the FXR, I probably would have suggested the FXDX forks which both are cartridged forks.....although changing the fork fluid would be much more involved, however over @ the History of the FXR thread I just read that you stated, ".......I know it needs Traxxion/bitubos, ......." so perhaps let's bring the classroom back in session, I am listening again.....now what is this.....   :nixweiss:

Thanks for educating me....once again.....

By the way on my FXR2, I am running a Custom Cycle Engineering Chrome Fork/Truss Brace, Drag Specialties Part #DS 222707 along with putting 10 oz of Bel~Ray 20w Fork Oil into each of the fork legs.  I am actually not experiencing any "dive" qualities when applying brakes under any circumstance, I did however feel such with a 2003 FXDL after purchasing it new and quickly changed out the "OEM" springs to "Progressive" springs, although I could never tell you what weight or amount of fork oil was changed in that bike when this "modification" was performed.  Not only am I not experiencing "dive" with my FXR2, I am extremely satisfied with it's handling characteristics, I am not sharing this to sound "defiant" or boastful about the handling of my bike....but to at least provide a parameter of what my expectations are for the handling of my FXR2 as well as what other situations I have discovered providing a "bench mark" for others to compare to.....

I am also running 11 oz of Bel~Ray 20w Fork Oil along with race tech emulators in my 2002 RKC and that bike handles extremely well with such modifications, although I must admit that when I first acquired the RKC the bike was diving away from me under many different circumstances and when I changed the fork oil I also changed the Springs from the progressive "wound" oem spring to a new Race Tech Emulator Spring along with the weight of the fluid to Bel~Ray 20w Fork Oil inclusive of also putting in the Race Tech Emulators as I just mentioned above so I am truly unable to point to what caused the "significant" and "specific" improvement I have experienced, whether it was the combined effects from these "3" modifications or whether it should be attributed to merely only "1" of the "3". It's hard to tell for sure.....I simply state this because too often in our "impatience" of the amount of "time" involved we make changes from one thing to another in HUGE steps instead of "incremental" steps to see where the largest portion of credit should be placed when experiencing an improvement....so my R&D on this matter is of little use to another unless on a RKC they do exactly as I did....whereas perhaps only the fork oil needs to be changed, or the spring, or if in fact all "3" of the changes create the most important positive feedback....So going back to my FXR2, I can tell you the bike handles extremely well with Bel~Ray 20w Fork Oil to a level of 10 oz with the "oem" spring and I guess what I am saying is I have had enough "bad" experiences prior with my RKC as well as my 2003 Dyna Low Rider to know when the front forks are failing to perform as one should expect them to.  So now I am looking forward to learning about what I asked above....I shared all of this for back ground purposes....lol...

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Regards,

Tim


My, my, my Tim, you need to venture out of the FXR Section once in awhile! :nixweiss: ;D

Been down the "fork oil/Progressive spring" road like you many times. Used to be all we can do to em. But we have a REAL alternative for suspension now thanks to Traxxion. :o

Traxxion Dynamics is a company that makes cartridge inserts for out stock forks. it's called an AK-20 Upgrade. Many of us have gone this route and couldn't be more thrilled with the results. bitubo is an Italian Racing Shock Co that Traxxion has worked with to design these shocks for our bikes too. Between the 2 items, you have an HD with a REAL suspension. A one word search, "Traxxion" here yielded 9 pages of results. ;)

These are a few of the better ones on the AK-20 and bitubo shocks:
http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=12685.0

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=12154.msg188946#msg188946

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=13951.msg218649#msg218649

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=14208.msg223274#msg223274

I, and many others now, will never run another HD without em! Enjoy the reading. There's a lot of it. Also, check out their site"
www.traxxion.com

Read and enjoy! You'll be caught up in no time! I think you'll find it quite interesting, as most of us performance nuts have! :2vrolijk_21:

ADDED: There's even an entire Section here devoted to Traxxion: http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?board=55.0

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Re: Vaule of a 1999 FXR2
« Reply #276 on: August 05, 2008, 12:41:18 AM »

I am absorbing the above post right.....quite a bit to read and ponder......I'll comment on all of it soon.

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Ok, so....

".........I'll know Wed night if I took it home!  With 9600 miles on it.........."

Well everyone it appears Hoist is getting close.....you guys are awesome at finding these FXR3 blue flamed bikes with few miles on them, George's has what aprx 12,000 and now Hoist has located one he hopes to secure by this Wednesday nite with only 9,600 miles....

I truly hope Hoist is able to put this together.......this FXR forum will live forever.......   

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I am pullin for you Hoist!!!!!!   

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« Reply #277 on: August 05, 2008, 12:49:02 AM »

I am absorbing the above post right.....quite a bit to read and ponder......I'll comment on all of it soon.

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Ok, so....

".........I'll know Wed night if I took it home!  With 9600 miles on it.........."

Well everyone it appears Hoist is getting close.....you guys are awesome at finding these FXR3 blue flamed bikes with few miles on them, George's has what aprx 12,000 and now Hoist has located one he hopes to secure by this Wednesday nite with only 9,600 miles....

I truly hope Hoist is able to put this together.......this FXR forum will live forever.......   

:pepper:

I am pullin for you Hoist!!!!!!   

Regards,


Tim

Thanks so much Tim. Like I said, if it's as represented, it's mine already. All we need is verification. :2vrolijk_21: ;)

And not only good at finding them. The folks here are UNBELIEVABLE! Jim and Joe are going way out to help me with this. Without their assistance, this deal wouldn't happen at all. To far for me to deal with. But with their help, I have full confidence in their verification. THIS PLACE (THE PEOPLE) RULES!!! :drink: :drink: :drink:

I try to contribute in the FXR Section, but without one I was kinda like an outsider. Now you FXR guys will also be subject to my banter! You guys ready for that? ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Vaule of a 1999 FXR2
« Reply #278 on: August 05, 2008, 01:34:32 AM »

".......if it's as represented, it's mine already. All we need is verification......."

Well Hoist, I sincerely hope it works out.....I would be surprised if anyone represented their "CVO" HD's incorrectly.......I totally aware that it can happen.....but one would think it's not highly probable....

Ok I don't know everyone's names here yet.....lol....so Jim and Joe are whom via their screen names....lol?   
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Waving to Jim and Joe by the way.....
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Now Hoist, if you would, can you remind me will this be your first FXR? 

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« Reply #279 on: August 05, 2008, 07:18:57 AM »

".......if it's as represented, it's mine already. All we need is verification......."

Well Hoist, I sincerely hope it works out.....I would be surprised if anyone represented their "CVO" HD's incorrectly.......I totally aware that it can happen.....but one would think it's not highly probable....

Ok I don't know everyone's names here yet.....lol....so Jim and Joe are whom via their screen names....lol?   
:nixweiss:

Waving to Jim and Joe by the way.....
 :bananarock:

Now Hoist, if you would, can you remind me will this be your first FXR? 

Regards,

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This will be my first FXR Tim. Most of my friends have owned em since they came out. I stuck with the 4-speed Evo and Dyna until I got my first RK in 95. Never looked back until now. Kept my '85 FXWG all these years, and are rebuilding that now with a 110" and 6-speed, Traxxion, bitubo, PM Brakes and Controls, etc. Really hot rodding that one out now. Then we built the Pro Street. Finished it about 3 years ago, but never got titled. It's getting titled as we speak. But now that it is, I'll be unfortunately selling it to make room for my Blue3. Always had a special place for the Blue3 and all this activity got my juices flowing again for one. I knew if I didn't try now, I'd probably never own one. But I've been around em and ridden on em for years now. Now it's my turn! I plan on keeping this bike forever, just like the FXWG and the SERK3! :2vrolijk_21:

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Re: Vaule of a 1999 FXR2
« Reply #280 on: August 05, 2008, 09:53:39 AM »

This will be my first FXR Tim.  Always had a special place for the Blue3 and all this activity got my juices flowing again for one. I knew if I didn't try now, I'd probably never own one. But I've been around em and ridden on em for years now. Now it's my turn! I plan on keeping this bike forever, just like the FXWG and the SERK3!

Hoist, lol, now I should have asked if you have ever ridden an FXR either.....for any amount distance....[oppps I just reread your comments above and read that you have been around FXR's and have ridden them, oh well....someone down the road may not have actually ridden one and some day will be contemplating the purchase of one so these reflections may be of help to them] it usually takes about a 300 mile ride in one day to know what you really have with an FXR, which really gives a person enough time to get over the nuiances of a bike in general and to "settle" in to the actual ride of any bike.  I realize some owners of any bike may never take a ride of that length in one day.....and are able to establish opinions.  I remember when we were discussing the merits of handlebars on your SERK and for my 2002 RKC last spring you had put on the Chubby Wild One 515's 10" Mini Apes, of course you later settled on the 12" Apes by Chubby Wild One, it was after you had taken a long ride that listening to your opinion about the handlebars held the most merits for me....A ride on an FXR of this length will provide enough different situations to really appreciate what HD created within the frame then when you mix into the formula all of the characteristics of the FXR3, you will absolutely love this bike....I know what's going to happen right now.....you will singlehandly bring an "enthusiasm" that will light the fire of this forum....I am so excited for you really.....just like for George.....This ride, [the ride of an FXR] is like no other....there are two caveats to this however:

1) For anyone 5' 11" or taller OR with an inseam over 33" there will be elements of feeling a bit "cramped" which is the results of the size of the frame of the FXR.  But today this comment is just as reflective for those considering a 2009 Ultra which weighs in at 899 lbs with fluids and has a seat height of 29" which is extremely tall and heavy....it's not a "knock" of the bike in general it just means it's being offered and designed for a certain type person....

2) After touring with my wife on the bike that is only 105lbs and luggage weighing in at 60 lbs and my body weight of 165 lbs the FXR2, FXR3, or FXR4 will always be a bit just on the outer edge for the passenger as for comfort as compared to a "touring" framed bike.  The power plant will hold it back a little too....

Now take anyone basically less than 5' 11" or with anything equal to or less than a 33" inseam riding one up and the FXR framed bike has the characteristics and design to be better than a "touring" framed bike in terms of handling and comfort, In fact argueably it is the BEST Harley Davidson as ever produced.......

Of course more reflections and comments about the above and the characteristics of the bike could take on a life of their own with many more insights and reflections from all of us....there is no doubt....but the scope of what I was attempting to articulate is that you are on the verge of acquiring something that will not disappoint your thoughts or beliefs regarding the elements that have predominated your interest in continuing the search for one of the bikes....at the end of the day.....I believe you will reach the conclusion just as others here that own these CVO FXR's that HD's first attempt at the CVO was truly captured within this fine machine. 

I love the debates and discussions about why the FXR's are the very best of the CVO's....it's always great banter!!!!

Hoist I also wanted to make a note that you might take a peek again at Reply #5 in the History Of The FXR Thread, this particular reply will address the "accessories" one should see on these bikes just to make sure you acquire some of the "removed" parts from the FXR3, it's just a "list" that provides some basis of what to expect.....sort of a check and balances piece of information!!!!

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Re: Vaule of a 1999 FXR2
« Reply #281 on: August 05, 2008, 03:02:19 PM »

HeHe! I love reading your stuff Tim. I feel like it's written by an FXR Scholar. You should write a book! :2vrolijk_21:

Actually did 2-350 mile trips on a friend's FXR a few years back (a 700 mile round trip). And we also swap bikes to play with, so I've ridden many an FXR Super Glide. But ya know Tim, this bike was made for me. As you talked about height and being cramped, I kinda chuckled as I know where you're coming from. But at 5-9 and a 32" inseam, it's absolutely perfect for my size! I'll check out those Forward Controls it has, but as far as handling, I prefer Mid Controls as you do. ;)

And no, it's not the Ultimate Touring Bike, but you can certainly enjoy travelling on one. Won't be mine's primary function though. That's a job for Cybil, my SERK3! Since I'm replacing my Pro Street with this, it'll morph more into an SEFXR Hot Rod! I'll have the starting point with the best FXR HD ever made. I know what type of ride I like, and am looking to have the best bikes HD ever made IMO, as my starting point. :huepfenjump3:

The '85 FXWG is one of the best. 4-speed frame with Evo motor, bobtail rear, and WG front end. The '80 FXWG was the first factory "chopper" although I never considered it that. That had a shovel. Then in '85, the only motors were Evos, so on the 4-speed frame it went until they ran out the 4-speed frame in '86. Never to see a kicker again!!! ???

My SERK3 is the best RK HD ever made. And the RK is the best touring bike they ever made. And I've transformed her into a real hot rod touring bike! You'll get plenty of arguements about that from the FD guys, but don't worry, they don't come here very often! ::)

Now for the ultimate riding/handling street bike they ever made, that goes to the FXR. And the best FXR ever made, remember IMO, is the FXR3 in Blue. So much potential in that bike, but a really awesome starting point. It'll be interesting to see how far I wind up going with it. But it will look as factory as it can, like my SERK, while still adding all kinds of performance enhancing upgrades. I've ridden many FXR's with Flanders Street Bars w/6" risers. But I'll still need to confirm the fit on this bike with this seat. Taller shocks are a must. Putting it back to '93 Super Glide height with the bitubo shocks and the Traxxion AK-20 cartridge conversion. PM 4 or 6 piston differential bore front PM caliper, and 4-piston db rear PM caliper. Metzler Lasertech front tire and maybe ME1 rear. I'm lucky I have many years of hot rodding street bikes and know what I like and what I don't. And you're so right about the handlebars. I already know the ones on the bike aren't staying! Just need to get the feel of this bike under my ass first, to be sure the changes I plan will work for me. ;)

So I'm thrilled to have the opportunity to pick this bike up and get to play with my first FXR. I'm looking forward to learning from ya'll that have owned them for sometime, and maybe offering some of my experience to help you guys out too! One thing's for sure..................................................



THE FXR SECTION LIVES!!!!! :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3:

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Re: Vaule of a 1999 FXR2
« Reply #282 on: August 05, 2008, 05:43:04 PM »

Hoist.....

Your comments above have obviously lead me into the reflections from your earlier thoughts on modifications.....lol.

1) handlebars~~
indeed a personal taste item for sure....what has NEVER worked for me is how in the heck the motor company started with the BUCK HORN handlebars.....shaking my head....a look that would never had appealed to me even if my attention was towards Harleys back in the early 80's.

2) taller shocks putting the bike back to a '93 Super Glide height.....well actually the names changed going back to 1993 will give you the options of:
a) FXR Super GLide           ground clearance: 5.25"       Lean Angle:   31 degrees right / 32 degrees left
b) FXLR Low Rider Custom  ground clearance: 5.25"       Lean Angle:   31 degrees right / 32 degrees left
c) FXRS-SP Low Rider Sport Edition    ground clearance: 6.0"     Lean Angle:   37 degrees right / 35 degrees left
d) FXRS-CONV Low Rider Convertible  ground clearance: 6.0"     Lean Angle:   37 degrees right / 35 degrees left

THE ORIGINAL VERSION OF THE FXR:

1981 FXRS Super Glide II   ground clearance: 6.12"     Lean Angle:   35 degrees right / 37 degrees left

1985 FXRS Low Glide With Optional Performance Package Featured:  Ground Clearance of 7.3"   I am not sure what the Lean Angle for this bike is though....but obviously this had the MOST ground clearance!!!

THE "CVO" 1999 FXR2:     ground clearance: 4.56"     Lean Angle:   29 degrees right / 31 degrees left

THE "CVO" 2000 FXR4:     ground clearance: 4.48"     Lean Angle:   29 degrees right / 31 degrees left

I don't actually have a "specification's sheet for a FXR3 to know these numbers specifically perhaps someone here will have a sheet, and if they would scan and post it I for one would appreciate it, I would doubt that there is much height difference for an FXR3 given the closeness of both the FXR2 and FXR4 specifications.


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Re: Vaule of a 1999 FXR2
« Reply #283 on: August 05, 2008, 05:44:37 PM »

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Here is the constant debate.....:
1985 FXRS Low Glide

According to reports one could call the 1985 FXRS Low Glide the most elaborate rider survey in HD History, a chance for riders to choose between style and function, the Marketing Department's image of what constitutes a popular motorcycle versus the Engineering Department's knowledge of what works.  Apparently in 1984 the shape of the FXRS Low Glide had been governed by the Marketing Department, and "inseam designing" quite literally had taken place at the expense of performance.  However, for 1985 Harley Davidson's first attempt at "niche" marketing made the FXRS Low Glide with the OPTION of "High Performance" ie: the first FXRS Low Glide with "Sport-bike suspension and serious brakes to match it's new Evolution Engine and belt drive.  Of course we all know that this was attempted earlier in 1982 with mixed reviews within the market place....Sales were poor in 1982 and 1983 seasons, and corporate number crunchers responded.  According to their research, the Super Glide's fatal flaw lay....that's right in the "inseam" it was just too tall!!!  Can you believe that HD knows the average inseam of the typical rider in America, that's right, 28.3" In 1984 the FXRS was reborn as the Low Glide.  It lost a disc up front, and the suspension was shortened at both ends to haul the bike's saddle down to a profitable altitude.  Fork tubes were cut two inches with no loss in front axle movement, and a pair of Showa shocks with shorter bodies were fitted to the swing arm.  Although the new shocks reduced rear-wheel travel by .62 inch, and limited ground clearance, the Low Glide's seat now sat 1.3" closer to the pavement, putting it among the lowest at that time in the Harley Davidson fleet at 26.8".

The "fusion" of this retailored Low Glide along with the added bait of the evolution engine struck pay dirt and sales soared, the marketing department glowed. Frustrated engineers who still clung to the "original" Super Glide dubbed the "TALL GLIDE" by insiders as the ideal handling motorcycle wondered did the Low Glide owe it's sudden popularity to the lowered seat or the evolution engine.  So without clear evidence, what happens in 1985 is a PAIR of Low Glides much like identical twins; visually almost undistinguishable, but with character and dispositions that set them apart from each other.  The "Standard Model" Low Glide benefits from the addition of two welcome technologies for 1985, the NEW oil-bath clutch and belt final drive.  For a mere $150.00 consumers had the option of selecting the factory-installed optional "Performance-Suspension Package" incorporating all the new hardware which added 10 lbs in weight, while transforming the "standard" FXRS Low Glide into a machine with a wholly different outlook on life. 

In 1985 the FXRS Low Glide received a new wet clutch, the starter was also relocated, the transmission moved a 1/2" to the right and the primary case reshaped to accomodate what would become standard issue on all 5 speed models in 1985 --- belt final drive.  The 1985 FXRS Low Glide is also given a pair of 11.5 inch discs up front.  The modified suspension units in front have two-inch-longer fork tubes and considerably softer spring and damping rates.   In back, longer shocks give the rear wheel .62 inch more travel and considerably more control.  The added ground clearance lets you literally feather the edges of the sticky tires before the footpeg begins folding up on the left and the front exhaust pipe touches down on the right.  At the time Harley readied its assembly lines for a production ratio of 4 or 5 "Standard" FXRS Low Glides for every "High Performance" packaged FXRS Low Glide. 
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Re: Vaule of a 1999 FXR2
« Reply #284 on: August 05, 2008, 05:45:07 PM »

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The 1985 FXRS Low Glide also came with 3.37 final gearing. 24T Compensating Sprocket 37T Clutch Shell Basket
35 mm front fork tubes
29.5" Seat Height with optional performance supsension package
7.3"   ground clearance with optional performance suspension package


It's obvious that HD debated this issue over and over and over....given the parameters of the engineers and the "stylists" regarding the discussion of "performance" vs "style" and thus what would sell.....I believe that the 1985 version of the FXRS Low Glide would prove to have the highest amount of ground clearance, indeed.....

ALSO in order to get the right balance WOULDN'T THE NEED TO lengthen the FORKS be necessary as well....if one were to LENGTHEN ONE'S SHOCKS????????  Things that are rushing through my mind.....

3) Front Forks....Why wouldn't one want to look at the FXDX forks as an option over the use of the Traxxion AK-20 Cartridge Conversion....I suppose one of the "benefits" of using the Traxxion AK-20 Cartridge, is that you are using the "OEM" forks which allows one to not have to modify the wheels where as with the FXDX forks since they are after 2000 you would need to also modify your wheels to that version, of course this creates a benefit of having perhaps I believe the 1" axle vs the 3/4" axle on the "OEM" forks of the FXR2's and FXR3's, I believe the FXR4 comes with 1" axles since they are using the more updated calipers as well.  One other benefit I suppose to the Traxxxion AK-20 based upon what I have read thus far, is THAT because you are able to use your "OEM" forks from one's FXR2, FXR3, or FXR4 one would be able to retain their CHROME LOWERS on the forks....where as the FXDX forks never came in CHROME LOWERS.  Now when one lengthen's their shocks I WOULD ASSUME there would ALSO be a need to lengthen one's FORKS so perhaps the reality of being able to KEEP THE "OEM" FXR2, FXR3, or FXR4 "Chromed Lowers" isn't a possibility which means if one is to lengthen one's shocks and there is a necessity to lengthen one's forks acquiring different forks will be necessary causing one to either have to "chrome" another set of forks which will work....?  WOW NOW THAT IS COMPLICATED!!!! and yes I am getting tired of thinking about all of this....lol
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4) PM 4 or 6 piston differential bore front PM caliper, and 4-piston db rear PM caliper.
As for these items.....one of course must determine the necessity for dual discs as well as whether one will keep one's stock forks or not....JUST FYI PM for the FXR2 forks only makes a PM 4 piston differential bore because of the "laced" wheel the mag wheel of the FXR3 does afford one further options, I believe...LOL THIS GET'S COMPLICATED with the mirad of options....Now you will always have a debate with me about modifying the rear brake to a PM, since it only is responsible for 20-30% of the bike's braking performance.....where you have me on this issue of course is what you may claim as a "presentation" or "look" feature...ie: going with PM's on the front and regular "OEM" brake calipers on the rear.

5) Metzler Lasertech front tire and maybe ME1 rear.
I will read and listen more to this as an option of course....first I have ever heard of this tire was your mentioning it just recently.

So a review of your thoughts.....which are all great ones....obviously a lot goes into the thinking when modifying one's bike ie: suspension and so forth....

I have some of the most beautiful riding opportunities mixed in with "twisties" and "curves" and "mountains" and so forth all within 30-40 minutes from my home.....and I for one would agree that because of the "stylists" perspective on these bikes....the CVO versions have been limited with their obvious lean angles....BUT I ask the question, which will always be a relevant question, if one improves such "lean" angles via shocks and forks, and then improves brakes, and tires.....at what point does one go "hotter" into a curve and not come out of it, where as the limitations of the present ride limit the riders ability anyway.....IT'S ALWAYS THE DEBATE!!!!!   

From doing the "HISTORY" on the FXR's and reading very closely all of the cumulative years reflections and thoughts coming out of the Motor Company one can certainly see what they intended to build and what the market is really asking for.....

It will be quite fun to observe your decisions and how you decide to reach them.....obviously the motor company built this "model" [FXR] long enough to have debated and put forth everything you will be "re"deciding for yourself.....

Regards,

Tim

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