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Re: CVO 110 Engine "Product Improvement Campaign" Data Only Here!
« Reply #45 on: July 23, 2008, 01:25:28 PM »

I missed it by about 3 weeks, mine was built late March.
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Re: CVO 110 Engine "Product Improvement Campaign" Data Only Here!
« Reply #46 on: July 23, 2008, 01:33:22 PM »

Well, I would be looking at an 09, so maybe everything is fixed by now (wishful thinking)[/b]
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Re: CVO 110 Engine "Product Improvement Campaign" Data Only Here!
« Reply #47 on: July 23, 2008, 01:45:15 PM »

At the 5593 mile mark I took mine in for an oil leak at the rear jug. Here's a list of parts they used to "fix" the problem.
   1 Drain Plug O-Ring
   1 Rubber Gasket kit
   2 Cylinder Head gaskets
   1 Top End gasket kit
   2 Cylinder assemblies
   2 Rocker Housings, lower
   2 Spark Plugs
   1 Oil Filter
   4 Qts Syn3

I then took it out west for 2-1/2 weeks, put 5700 miles on it and noticed it seemed to be using oil. Back to the dealer when I got home. Here's a list for this time. By the way I changed oil about half way through my trip.
   1 Rubber Gasket kit
   2 Rocker Housing gaskets
   2 Cylinder head gaskets
   2 Rocker Covers
   4 Valve seals
   2 Spark Plugs

It's starting to look like I can expect to rebuild the motor every 5500 miles. Maybe I'll just rebuild the motor at every oil change. It will be easier to keep track of. I sure am glad I bought their top of the line model.
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Re: CVO 110 Engine "Product Improvement Campaign" Data Only Here!
« Reply #48 on: July 23, 2008, 02:33:23 PM »

Head gasket leak repaired 4/28/08 @ 4235 miles. Bike build date 7/07
Parts used:

2 O-Rings                    Part# 10956
2 O-Rings                    Part# 11273
2 Cylinder Head Gaskets Part# 16801-07B
1 Top End Gasket Kit     Part# 17052-99B


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Re: CVO 110 Engine "Product Improvement Campaign" Data Only Here!
« Reply #49 on: July 23, 2008, 03:17:20 PM »

Just called my dealership and the SM had just learned about the recall this morning.  He was floored that I was reading content from the letter already.

Needless to say I have a service appointment scheduled for when I get back to Detroit of August 27th which will be just in time for my big baseball park tour I'm doing starting September 5th.

Thanks guys for all the heads up you rock.

Sorry if this was a  :jack:
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Re: CVO 110 Engine "Product Improvement Campaign" Data Only Here!
« Reply #50 on: July 24, 2008, 10:51:39 AM »

I picked up my bike yesterday from the dealer, and was told about the recall. The dealer had approval to rebuild my top end, but then the Motor Company said wait for the recall parts. Does anyone know what Harley is going to change? :(
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Re: CVO 110 Engine "Product Improvement Campaign" Data Only Here!
« Reply #51 on: July 24, 2008, 10:58:01 AM »

I picked up my bike yesterday from the dealer, and was told about the recall. The dealer had approval to rebuild my top end, but then the Motor Company said wait for the recall parts. Does anyone know what Harley is going to change? :(

Assuming your bike is the bike in your avatar you will be getting program 0905 which entails

top end gaskets
center crankcase bolt
Automatic Compression Release.
heads with the new valve guides

I've already scheduled to take my bike to the dealership on 8/27 and when they perform the recall I'm going to upgrade the cams and have them port the new heads.   I'm also going to have yet another "enhancement" (*cough* bugfix *cough*) installed while she's in the shop in the form of the timken bearing.
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Re: CVO 110 Engine "Product Improvement Campaign" Data Only Here!
« Reply #52 on: July 24, 2008, 11:08:51 AM »

Assuming your bike is the bike in your avatar you will be getting program 0905 which entails

top end gaskets
center crankcase bolt
Automatic Compression Release.
heads with the new valve guides

I've already scheduled to take my bike to the dealership on 8/27 and when they perform the recall I'm going to upgrade the cams and have them port the new heads.   I'm also going to have yet another "enhancement" (*cough* bugfix *cough*) installed while she's in the shop in the form of the timken bearing.

If you're splitting the cases to do the Timken, I hope you're looking at either changing, or truing/welding your crankshaft while you're down there! :2vrolijk_21:

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Re: CVO 110 Engine "Product Improvement Campaign" Data Only Here!
« Reply #53 on: July 24, 2008, 11:25:57 AM »

I have spoken with the MD of HD  Europe and asked him

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Re: CVO 110 Engine "Product Improvement Campaign" Data Only Here!
« Reply #54 on: July 24, 2008, 11:32:00 AM »

Hope the heads cure all the top end noise these 110's make.

Amen to that, though I doubt they will!

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Re: CVO 110 Engine "Product Improvement Campaign" Data Only Here!
« Reply #55 on: July 24, 2008, 12:21:54 PM »

My '07 SERK is at dealership now for a new digital gas gage and what will probably be my third speedo/tach.  I've suggested they just keep the bike in for the "Product Improvement".  What else should I suggest they check out besides the items listed in the improvement?  The mechanic that I've asked to do the work seems to be somewhat meticulous and I think he might go above and beyond if I suggest items that I'd like for him to check while he doing the required work.
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Re: CVO 110 Engine "Product Improvement Campaign" Data Only Here!
« Reply #56 on: July 24, 2008, 01:06:49 PM »

As Always,

Still Confused!

I understand what some of the fix is going to be but have two questions:

(1)  Why a new case center bolt?  Does it have to do with length, tensile strength or are they putting a sealing ring under it's head like the inner primary bolts are?

(2) Looks to me and I'm sure to all of you that the most important part of all this is missing (NEW CYLINDERS).  Also confusing is that some have had sleeves shift up and others shift down.  Shifting up looks like it would only tighten itself more against the head gasket, while shifting down would more likely cause the leak.  Furthermore, just how far down can it slip.  I assume that it is shouldered against the case and can't move.  I have not seen the bottom of the Harley cylinder, but looking at my new Axtells the sleeve has a large shoulder that spans over the o-ring groove.

Thanks!

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Re: CVO 110 Engine "Product Improvement Campaign" Data Only Here!
« Reply #57 on: July 24, 2008, 03:39:00 PM »

My '07 SERK is at dealership now for a new digital gas gage and what will probably be my third speedo/tach.  I've suggested they just keep the bike in for the "Product Improvement".  What else should I suggest they check out besides the items listed in the improvement?  The mechanic that I've asked to do the work seems to be somewhat meticulous and I think he might go above and beyond if I suggest items that I'd like for him to check while he doing the required work.

Have him check your crank runout...   :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: CVO 110 Engine "Product Improvement Campaign" Data Only Here!
« Reply #58 on: July 24, 2008, 04:42:31 PM »

As Always,

Still Confused!

I understand what some of the fix is going to be but have two questions:

(1)  Why a new case center bolt?  Does it have to do with length, tensile strength or are they putting a sealing ring under it's head like the inner primary bolts are?

(2) Looks to me and I'm sure to all of you that the most important part of all this is missing (NEW CYLINDERS).  Also confusing is that some have had sleeves shift up and others shift down.  Shifting up looks like it would only tighten itself more against the head gasket, while shifting down would more likely cause the leak.  Furthermore, just how far down can it slip.  I assume that it is shouldered against the case and can't move.  I have not seen the bottom of the Harley cylinder, but looking at my new Axtells the sleeve has a large shoulder that spans over the o-ring groove.

Thanks!

JPB

I asked about cylinders, and this is what was explained to me:

There are two separate problems 1) gaskets and 2) cylinders. Unfortunately, a lot of people have lumped these together into one because the symptoms from each are similar (oil leak).

HD thinks that the problem with cylinders is limited to a smaller number of u, and that any liner movement shows up in the first few thousand miles. (My dealer confirms that that is his experience – any comments?) On the other hand, gasket problems are pretty universal.

So they are not going to replace cylinders as part of the “product improvement campaign.”

BUT, if you find you have a bad cylinder (like when the bike is torn down for “product improvement”) it’s still eligible for warranty replacement.
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Re: CVO 110 Engine "Product Improvement Campaign" Data Only Here!
« Reply #59 on: July 24, 2008, 05:44:25 PM »

Like my burn't powder coating on the cylinder caused by the oil leak. Touch up doesn't work so they replaced the cylinders.
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