I just put my 09 softail springer on order/hold and so far you have given me some info I did not know. I was wondering and know this might be a pain but most of the option you have either ordered or have gotten I would also like to do to mine. Could I get the part numbers for the parts you have put on so I do not have to rely on a Harley parts employee to get the right part or to even make an effort to find me a part that I am looking for. The better two up seat. Pipes. I am looking to put ape hanger bars on it. Maybe the same size my 06 wide glide has on it. Do you know if there is a forward turn signal relocation kit? Question. When I changed the pipes on my bike with the EFI I also needed to change/add a computer that was dyno'd to match the pipes and stage one. If you installed the slip ons nothing was required for the airflow change? What if you change the pipes to say drag pipes? Why did you choose the slip ons you installed? I like it load so the muffled down pipes on my 06 were way to baffled and once I installed the vance and hines the performance was dramatic. Why do you like the pipes you do? Hope you answer most of this I know its alot but It took forever to research all the parts on my 06 and this time I would like to shorten that time. Thanks. Spawn.
The reason I went with Rush slip ons is because to my knowledge, there are few to no options of drag pipes made for the 09 Springer yet and Rush is what my dealer had in stock. The only thing that works to my knowledge is V&H 2 into 1 and possibly their Big Radius made for the Rocker, but the Rocker has a smaller engine than the Springer. They might fit but don't know if they are really tuned for the Springer. If you do get slip ons, make sure you get the 2.25 inch baffles. I originally had the 2 inch baffles and switched to 2.25 inch. The sound was much better.
As far as tuning the 09, I think any modification, even slip ons, and for that fact, even after you buy the bike new with no mods, it's worth optimizing the performance but only if it makes sense economically. That's why I bought the new software programs, interface and cables made by TTS. In short, you hook the interface and cables up to your bike and collect data with a laptop while you ride your bike through various MAP and rpm configurations. The software collects the data and then you use another program to integrate the base file for your bike you previously flashed into the ECM with the collected data file to create a new file you flash into the ECM again. Each time you run a data collection file and create a new refined file you perfect your VE tables for front and rear cylinders until it's optimal (usually about 3 runs of data collection) for your particular bike. It's basically what a dyno tune does. The writer of the TTS program formerly did this for the MoCo until HD decided it could do it. If you want more information on this subject here is a link.
http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=23552.0 The nice thing about this TTS program is you can do unlimited tunes on your bike as you modify pipes, air cleaners, cams, etc. It isn't as complicated as it sounds if you read the help files carefully, and ask questions. I bought mine from Doc Weaver and he answered his phone and answered my questions everytime I called until I understood everything. cvoharley members get a 10% discount from him.
Once a drag pipe comes out by Rinehart that I like that will fit my 09 springer, I'll install them and get rid of the factory cross flow system and then re-tune my bike at no extra charge. Let me mention something else about pipes. I have the Rinehart cross backs on my 08 springer and I can say without any doubt, that the torque between 2,500 and 3,500 rpm on my 08 springer with the Rineharts is clearly superior to my 09 springer with only Rush slip ons. When I open up the throttle, I have to hold those handlebars tight to keep the bike from accelerating without me on it between 2,500 and 3,500 rpm, plus the sound is way better in my opinion. Rinehart claims on their web site that the cross backs significantly increase torque and it's true. I think the cross backs are the only drag pipe Rinehart makes with 2.25 inch baffles for engines bigger than 96 CI.
Finally Spawn, why do you want the part numbers from me if you've put the bike order on hold?