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[icybay]

Don't leave the garbage out in Dutch......

[miker]

Just give some that scavenger some dead crabs...
I am surprised they are valuless, can they be ground into meal?

Our eaglet try and grab those monsterous triploid carp they keep in the lakes down here for algae growth, funny to watch..

[SPIDERMAN]

We must deliver them live. I f they are dead they are discarded and worthless. On a normal trip, out of 300,000 pounds or so, we might get 350 pounds of dead loss if were lucky. Once a long time ago my circulation pump in one tank went out and I lost 125,000 pounds. Not a pretty sight. There are four live crab tanks with four separate circulation pumps and four generators so there is quite a redundancy.

Saw Sig Hansen try to keep about 30,000lbs live on deck in one of the Deadliest Catch shows. Now I'm the last one to preach regulation, but given all the rules attendant to crab fishing, if you do something like that and bring in a bunch of dead crab doesn't that pi$$ off the Fisheries guys ? I mean it just seemed greedy watching him do that. Why didn't he call up the surrounding boats and see who had room in their tanks and split it with them ? As I recall, there was one boat that had some bad luck in setting their pots and didn't bring home much.

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[icybay]

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WTF First of all, if you are not a greedy SOB  you will never make a highline fisherman.  We are not out there for our health, the other guys can catch their own crab, no welfare here (Alaska is still a Republican state (barely)).


However, these days we have adopted a quota system where each boat has a fixed amount of crab to catch, based on prior history. Now, if we have too many crab we bring them into town and deliver them for someone else's account in our co-op, and they do the dame if we are short a few pounds. Much more civilized, but not a competitive business anymore, in the sense that you can take all the time you want to catch your quota, as opposed to who gets the most in a three or four day season.

If you bring in dead crab, it comes off of your individual quota. You lose, you make no money, period. Itr doesn't happen very often that there is much dead loss.  In Sig's case, that was in 2004 which was  pre-rationalization , where you got paid on how much you brought in during the season, which could only last as little as three days. The deck load on a small boat like the Northwestern could have made the difference between making money and going in the hole. That would not happen today.

[TheVgirl]

Florida stone crab...NOT

Is that your daughter?  Let me clarify...I mean the girl holding the crab.

Hey Hoist, can we add crab to the menu for the next GTG? 

[icybay]

Yep, thats my girl, Rocky. She has been on fishing boats since she was two. There are boats all over Alaska named Miss Roxanne!!

[SPIDERMAN]

BB

WTF First of all, if you are not a greedy SOB  you will never make a highline fisherman.  We are not out there for our health, the other guys can catch their own crab, no welfare here (Alaska is still a Republican state (barely)).


However, these days we have adopted a quota system where each boat has a fixed amount of crab to catch, based on prior history. Now, if we have too many crab we bring them into town and deliver them for someone else's account in our co-op, and they do the dame if we are short a few pounds. Much more civilized, but not a competitive business anymore, in the sense that you can take all the time you want to catch your quota, as opposed to who gets the most in a three or four day season.

If you bring in dead crab, it comes off of your individual quota. You lose, you make no money, period. Itr doesn't happen very often that there is much dead loss.  In Sig's case, that was in 2004 which was  pre-rationalization , where you got paid on how much you brought in during the season, which could only last as little as three days. The deck load on a small boat like the Northwestern could have made the difference between making money and going in the hole. That would not happen today.

WTF is that I have no clue as to the everything you explained above. That's why I was asking.Thanks for the explanation. Kinda cool to be able to watch stuff on the tube and have somebody in the game explain it to you. TV often lowers things to such a level as it becomes a moot point what the rules are. In the case I mentioned, I confused the quota system with what was happening at the time. Again, your explanation makes a lot more sense than the way the whole thing was "edited" for TV. One other question. I saw an episode where they gave a new guy a really hard time because he mentioned how much money he was going to make with the way they were hauling in full pots. BUT, I also see that one guy on deck gives the boat captain a count for each pot. Seems like the same thing to me. Again, WTF do I know anyway.


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[icybay]

No problemo, BB. Happy to explain.  I guess this was threadjacked from the 48 cylinders anyway.

It is VERY important to have an ACCURATE count of how many crabs are in each pot. Each boat has a quota in pounds, not in crabs, so you have to multiply the amount of crabs that you ACTUALLY  have on board  times what you ESTIMATE the average weight is to get the total number of pounds on board.  If you are over your quota, even by 10 pounds, THEY WILL GIVE YOU A TICKET. 

Crewmen who undercount the crab make you hae too many pounds and subject to fines. If they over report, you will have too few crab and not get paid for hem. It makes no financial sense to go back out on a four day trip to catch $22,000 (5,000 pounds of crab at 4.50 per pound) when fuel is $4.00gallon and you burn 1500 gallons a day. You go backwards 2 grand (plus bait and food etc.)  and work for free too when you could be sitting in the Unisea having a warm milk!
 

[naitram]

your boat been on discovery channel?

[SPIDERMAN]

your boat been on discovery channel?

Rumor has it he's camera shy   

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[TheVgirl]

Yep, thats my girl, Rocky. She has been on fishing boats since she was two. There are boats all over Alaska named Miss Roxanne!!

And someone told me I was crazy when I said I wanted to do that for vacation!!!  I bet she can tell some stories....  Why don't you ever see any females on Deadliest Catch? 

Ok, here's an idea!  Why don't you bring her with you to the next GTG so she can tell us some fishing stories?  I bet she's a riot.  Does she ride?   

[icybay]

No Deadliest Catch lead, just a cameo once. I don't have (or want) any chuckleheads working for me that F/Up all the time. Doesn't make for good TV.

[naitram]

No Deadliest Catch lead, just a cameo once. I don't have (or want) any chuckleheads working for me that F/Up all the time. Doesn't make for good TV.

nothing wrong with that. wonder if i saw that one

[icybay]

I hope you didn't see the one (not on Deadliest Catch)  where the "Windy Bay" sank and spilled 32,000 gallons of diesel. That was one to forget!

[TheVgirl]

No Deadliest Catch lead, just a cameo once. I don't have (or want) any chuckleheads working for me that F/Up all the time. Doesn't make for good TV.

I meant her not you.  LOL!  She's much prettier than you are.  Ha ha!  I meant I guess the women aren't rough enough to be on the TV show.  No teeth missing, no foul language, no fights.  What episode?  I TiVo'd the whole season.  Will have to check it out.