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[porthole]

For comparison, LtBawb's pump and tensioner

Mine


his

[porthole]

Mine


His

[porthole]

With run out being such an issue I wonder why the moco hasn't come up with a floating gerotor for the pump yet.

[tazmun]

Ok I've read all the posts on the tensioner & oil pumps, and I have one HONEST question.
If your car, be it the BIG THREE, or whatever took a S--T, at 30k, would you be so Ah!
"that's normal"? I don't think so, so why is it ok for it to happen to our bikes?

I just cannot understand the duel standards.

Just my 2 cents!

[spydglide]

Those of us that have been riding Harleys for some time are tickled to get 30K.  The older models (knucks, pans, shovels, etc.) didn't usually last 30K w/o a rebuild.  So, we've be 'conditioned' to believe it's ok.  Of course, they didn't cruise at over 75mph plus either or at least not for long.    har!  spyder

[tazmun]

Those of us that have been riding Harleys for some time are tickled to get 30K.  The older models (knucks, pans, shovels, etc.) didn't usually last 30K w/o a rebuild.  So, we've be 'conditioned' to believe it's ok.  Of course, they didn't cruise at over 75mph plus either or at least not for long.    har!  spyder

Conditioned maybe, but you still haven't HONESTLY answered the question!

Would it be ok if you car, or truck took a crap at 30k??

[spydglide]

Conditioned maybe, but you still haven't HONESTLY answered the question!

Would it be ok if you car, or truck took a crap at 30k??

Point taken.  I wasn't ok when my Dodge tranny went out in the truck in under 10K.  Of course, they fixed it under warrenty.  And I'm not sure that it's OK with most on this site that the motors need tensioners replaced as a routine maintence item......I know I'm not.  But, I've got 58K miles on my 103 motor/tranny without having to do anything (but worry about the tensioners).  Gonna fix at 60K with the up-grade kit that's now available (at my expense).  Not happy.. ...but, I'm 'conditioned'.  har!  spyder

[timo482]

this kind of complaining really gets me going.

hd makes two types of bikes:
 - modern ones where the idea is lots of power and little maint and few failures.
 - bikes that are updated knuckleheads

buyers choice.

i clearly remember having to take the engine apart on my 79 sportster [78 to 81] and my 77 electra glide [82 to 85] nearly every winter.

i also clearly remember my kaw 1000 [86] crapping out and it taking 6 weeks to get a ignition part, and having to take it apart completely so i could fit it in the trunk of a car to get it home.   to be honest at the time i was much more in tune to fixing ignition with the screw driver on my pocket knife, and tiny vice grip and a book of matches.

i also clearly remember my gold wing [87 to 89] washing out a cylinder and finding out that the whole crank, all 4 rods, and all 4 pistons & ring sets was the smallest component to be replaced since it needed new rings and a hone in one cyl. 

relative newbies probably are not nearly so forgiving of the maint it takes to keep a air cooled harley going. i understand this, but im not very sympathetic. they can go get a gold wing and throw the whole bike away when it has a problem - or shut up, fix the hd when it needs fixing. in fact i dare one of these guys complaining to ride a shovel minnesota to california via toronto and vancouver. ive done it, they cant. 

to

[porthole]

But, I've got 58K miles on my 103 motor/tranny without having to do anything (but worry about the tensioners).  Gonna fix at 60K with the up-grade kit that's now available (at my expense).

Looking at my tensioners, I obviously have the "long term" set.

Compared to Bob's, I think I would get the 60K you are aiming for. I just figured between Bob's going at 15K and Candy's going 3500 miles from home is enough of a reason to take a look, and I wanted to do gear drive cam upgrade anyway (although most likely not gears now).

Bob's at 15K


Mine at almost 35K

[porthole]

So while taking some stuff off the bike, I noticed that the case has relief cuts in for the cam.

Not recalling that when we did Bob's bike I went searching for the pictures. Sure enough, his teal 05 SEEG had no cuts and mine does.

Bob's - early 05



Mine mid 05

[Twolanerider]

So while taking some stuff off the bike, I noticed that the case has relief cuts in for the cam.

Not recalling that when we did Bob's bike I went searching for the pictures. Sure enough, his teal 05 SEEG had no cuts and mine does.

Just checked from way back when the red bike first got the 575 cams.  It didn't have the relief cuts.  Sept 04 build.

[hogasm]

So while taking some stuff off the bike, I noticed that the case has relief cuts in for the cam.

Not recalling that when we did Bob's bike I went searching for the pictures. Sure enough, his teal 05 SEEG had no cuts and mine does.

Bob's - early 05



Mine mid 05

I know mine didn't but it is an 04.

Did you buy the bike new?

[porthole]

Mine was new, 5 miles, 03-2005.

Where do you check the build date?

[grandpadoc]

I work with resins occasionally (surf board and boat repair) and the only time I see pitting like that is when things get real hot. Small balls of cooked plastic chunk off and leave a pit. My bike has 20K on it and will get the tensioner upgrade kit this Thursday. Now I know why they included a new oil pump  !!!  Hey thanks for this thread, its much appreciated.    Doc

[Twolanerider]

Mine was new, 5 miles, 03-2005.

Where do you check the build date?

It's on the VIN sticker Duane.