Well Spidey, Saying whether or not OCC was ever good is more of a rhetorical question.Being that it was based like you said on a custom builder ,building bikes on TV. Like most everyone else i watched faithfully in the beginning. then after 2 new shows it goes into 15 reruns. So you get tired. Last time I was clicking around the channels I saw it was on and they were out sleding somewhere. Maybe thats the way the show is going I don't know or care. But I agree with your other points about Boyd,Biker build off and other gear head type shows. but as this phenonema wears down now we have poker every where,I know this has no relevance but I'm talking about TV trends.So I guess we should get our face in the wind than our ass in the La-Z-Boy. Later Q