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DESERTBEAR54

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Squealing Brakes???????
« on: February 17, 2009, 09:20:08 AM »
I just replaced all the brake pads on my 08 SEUC which I can say is a piece of cake but I have now have a ton of squealing going on. I replaced the pads with the Harley replacements from China.Anyone know how to get rid of the loud squealing??This is happening in front and back.
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Re: Squealing Brakes???????
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2009, 09:23:52 AM »
They had a service bulletin about this and the solution was like cars they put some stuff on the back of the pads.
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Re: Squealing Brakes???????
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2009, 09:26:27 AM »
Well I bought some anti squeal stuff in a tube and applied it to the back sides of the shoes but it is worse than my worn shoes???
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Re: Squealing Brakes???????
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2009, 11:56:48 AM »
Wow, I can be an expert on this subject. I am a factory rep for NAPA Brakes.

(1) Get all of the anti-squeal stuff off the back of the pads...It does not work!
(2) Make sure all the spring hardware is in good condition. When in doubt..replace!
(3) Clean, clean, clean the caliper and all the hardware.
(4) Get yourself a tube of Silicone Brake lube and put a THIN layer of grease where ever there is metal to metal contact.

Follow those steps, and you should have a quiet, smooth, braking system.
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Re: Squealing Brakes???????
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2009, 12:01:51 PM »
UFO_Hog Where exactly would you apply the silicone grease? On the back of the Brake Pad Plates where it contacts the piston's and on the edges of the Brake Pads????
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Re: Squealing Brakes???????
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2009, 12:11:20 PM »
Quote from: DESERTBEAR54 on February 17, 2009, 12:01:51 PM
UFO_Hog Where exactly would you apply the silicone grease? On the back of the Brake Pad Plates where it contacts the piston's and on the edges of the Brake Pads????

Yes, where the pistons contact the pads and any contact points the pads make with the caliper. It doesn't take very much, just a thin layer.
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Re: Squealing Brakes???????
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2009, 12:39:36 PM »
Well Thanks allot UFO_Hog!! Off the brakes come this weekend. They will function correctly until I can get it done I hope.Just Noisy!! I cleaned the calipers real good but thatAnti Squeal Orange crap I put on them is worthless!!
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Re: Squealing Brakes???????
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2009, 04:40:18 PM »
I had mine in last week for the rear brake squealing. When I got it back, I almost hit a truck as soon as I left!! The brakes have a substance that looks like grease on the rotors. I don't think that it is because it is so hard to get off the chrome. The stuff sticks like glue! I rode it on home and the brakes are stopping better but still have some "glide" to them. No squeal and the fronts no longer pulse. What is this stuff!!!   :nervous:
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Re: Squealing Brakes???????
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2009, 05:09:58 PM »
Quote from: brassspike on February 17, 2009, 04:40:18 PM
I had mine in last week for the rear brake squealing. When I got it back, I almost hit a truck as soon as I left!! The brakes have a substance that looks like grease on the rotors. I don't think that it is because it is so hard to get off the chrome. The stuff sticks like glue! I rode it on home and the brakes are stopping better but still have some "glide" to them. No squeal and the fronts no longer pulse. What is this stuff!!!   :nervous:

You really need to get that bike to a competent shop.  There should be no foreign material on the rotor, the anti-squeal compound is only supposed to be applied to the back side of the pad where it contacts the caliper piston.  It's purpose is to dampen vibration between the pad and the caliper.  If the "technician" who worked on your bike got this stuff on the rotors and pad friction surfaces, he has no business working on brakes. 

BTW, anti-squeal compound is just a temporary band-aid designed to treat symptoms but not cure the disease.  Get a properly designed and manufactured set of brake pads and throw the anti-squeal compound in the trash.  This so-called "fix" from H-D is BS designed to placate customers until the original pads wear out or the warranty expires, whichever comes first.   

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Re: Squealing Brakes???????
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2009, 05:23:22 PM »
Jerry Can you recommend good brake replacements and a place to get them for the 08 SEUC. That really sucks because I just spent monry on those pads from Harley.
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Re: Squealing Brakes???????
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2009, 05:34:52 PM »
most of the guys i know use the lyndall z-pads from lyndall racing brakes. quiet & very little dust :bananarock:
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Re: Squealing Brakes???????
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2009, 05:50:55 PM »

I personally recommend Lyndall Z+ pads for street riding.  The Lyndall part number for the '08 and later Touring bikes is 7254-Z.  You can buy them directly from Lyndall http://lyndallracingbrakes.com/merchant/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=L&Product_Code=7254-Z&Attributes=Yes&Quantity=1 , or from many of the motorcycle parts web sites.  List price is $49 per set, which isn't significantly higher than what H-D charges for their stuff, and some of the web sites have prices in the low 40's.

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Re: Squealing Brakes???????
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2009, 06:40:25 PM »
Quote from: grc on February 17, 2009, 05:09:58 PM
You really need to get that bike to a competent shop.  There should be no foreign material on the rotor, the anti-squeal compound is only supposed to be applied to the back side of the pad where it contacts the caliper piston.  It's purpose is to dampen vibration between the pad and the caliper.  If the "technician" who worked on your bike got this stuff on the rotors and pad friction surfaces, he has no business working on brakes. 

BTW, anti-squeal compound is just a temporary band-aid designed to treat symptoms but not cure the disease.  Get a properly designed and manufactured set of brake pads and throw the anti-squeal compound in the trash.  This so-called "fix" from H-D is BS designed to placate customers until the original pads wear out or the warranty expires, whichever comes first.   

Jerry

I agree with you Jerry. At first I thought maybe someone got confused on where to put the anti squeal goop and that might be the problem. I just can't imagine a HD tech doing that!? But......
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Re: Squealing Brakes???????
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2009, 08:45:13 PM »
Quote from: brassspike on February 17, 2009, 04:40:18 PM
I had mine in last week for the rear brake squealing. When I got it back, I almost hit a truck as soon as I left!! The brakes have a substance that looks like grease on the rotors. I don't think that it is because it is so hard to get off the chrome. The stuff sticks like glue! I rode it on home and the brakes are stopping better but still have some "glide" to them. No squeal and the fronts no longer pulse. What is this stuff!!!   :nervous:

Probably the cosmolene they put on rotors to keep them from rusting. Not a big deal as far as hurting the pads or anything, but the tech should have at least test rode the bike and seated in the pads.
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Re: Squealing Brakes???????
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2009, 03:18:52 PM »
I had the same noise on my 08SEUC.
Drove me crazy!!!!!!!
Finally after replacing pads at dealer more than twice,(their expense)
They tried this paste substance, and have not had any problems since.
I beleave that it came fro MOCO.
Braking is ok as well.

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