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H.P and Torque After Tune
« on: March 20, 2009, 04:06:22 PM »
I have the 08 SEUC.
Modifications made are:
V/H Header Pipes
Stock Mufflers with Fulsac's 1 3/4 Baffles.
Big Sucker
Pro-SERT

After having bike Professionally Tuned at dealer I am getting:
89 HP
112 Torque

How does this sound to all of you?

Thank You!
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Re: H.P and Torque After Tune
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2009, 04:17:50 PM »
Quote from: sawyerghost on March 20, 2009, 04:06:22 PM
I have the 08 SEUC.
Modifications made are:
V/H Header Pipes
Stock Mufflers with Fulsac's 1 3/4 Baffles.
Big Sucker
Pro-SERT

After having bike Professionally Tuned at dealer I am getting:
89 HP
112 Torque

How does this sound to all of you?

Thank You!


My opinion,,,,,,,,,,,whatever that's worth.

Torque is fine
H/P is a little low.
I would think mid 90's.

But SG the important thing is how it feels!

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Re: H.P and Torque After Tune
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2009, 05:12:30 PM »
Chip / S-B is correct.  Read here to see what others with similar mods have achieved: 
http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=27693.0

Peak numbers impress only the uninformed. (Poetic no?)  Look at your print out.  What's the torque at 2500 rpm which is where you'll be most of the time.  When you "get on it," does it respond?  A bike with your numbers and a flat power curve (power comes on early and sustains to 5500 rpm) will beat a 130 hp bike that needs 3500 rpm to produce power.  Trying to post my run (91.1 hp / 109.51' lbs) file below (can't: wrong type of file).  Very flat curve and the bike feels great.  In fact this test was with similar mods but the wrong breather bolts.  You're probably fine. 
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Re: H.P and Torque After Tune
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2009, 08:47:26 PM »
I'm curious, what gear are the dyno number from? 5th or 6th?
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Re: H.P and Torque After Tune
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2009, 09:11:25 PM »
I will have to ask which gear
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Re: H.P and Torque After Tune
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2009, 09:30:40 PM »
Here are the dyno run number numbers for my '09 FHTRSE3:

Base line - Stock exhaust, stock AC with CC still in the head pipe:
77.7 HP / 89.2 TQ

Base line - New head pipe without CC, stock AC, 1.75 inch FullSac baffles:
90.6 HP / 100.3 TQ

Custom Map -Super SERT, new head pipe without CC, stock AC, 1.75 ince FullSac baffles:
98.6 HP / 113.5 TQ

Significant gains just getting rid of the CC, with the new head pipe & baffles. Custom map with Super SERT gives you the power & TQ these bikes were designed to deliver. I live in So. Nevada, and I had my tuner strive for two things: Mildly agressive tune that delivered stong mid-range performace, (I am not interested in top end, but I do want the the bike to jump when I give it a squirt), cool the engine operating temps by providing a richer fuel / air mixture. Made a huge difference in the bikes performace, I just need now to get used to all the power!

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Re: H.P and Torque After Tune
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2009, 10:02:43 AM »
Dave, is it possible for you to post your map?
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Re: H.P and Torque After Tune
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2009, 01:32:09 PM »
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Let me know if this comes through for you.

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Re: H.P and Torque After Tune
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2009, 02:50:44 PM »
Cvo, Dyno is done in 5th gear.
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Re: H.P and Torque After Tune
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2009, 02:54:34 PM »
Dave, got it. Thanks, nice lines. That's what I want.
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Re: H.P and Torque After Tune
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2009, 03:39:41 PM »
Quote from: sawyerghost on March 20, 2009, 04:06:22 PM
I have the 08 SEUC.
Modifications made are:
V/H Header Pipes
Stock Mufflers with Fulsac's 1 3/4 Baffles.
Big Sucker
Pro-SERT

After having bike Professionally Tuned at dealer I am getting:
89 HP
112 Torque

How does this sound to all of you?

Thank You!

thats not good my Jester hat 89,85 hp stock
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Re: H.P and Torque After Tune
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2009, 07:36:49 PM »
Quote from: Desert Dave on March 20, 2009, 09:30:40 PM
Here are the dyno run number numbers for my '09 FHTRSE3:

Base line - Stock exhaust, stock AC with CC still in the head pipe:
77.7 HP / 89.2 TQ

Base line - New head pipe without CC, stock AC, 1.75 inch FullSac baffles:
90.6 HP / 100.3 TQ

Custom Map -Super SERT, new head pipe without CC, stock AC, 1.75 ince FullSac baffles:
98.6 HP / 113.5 TQ

Significant gains just getting rid of the CC, with the new head pipe & baffles. Custom map with Super SERT gives you the power & TQ these bikes were designed to deliver. I live in So. Nevada, and I had my tuner strive for two things: Mildly agressive tune that delivered stong mid-range performace, (I am not interested in top end, but I do want the the bike to jump when I give it a squirt), cool the engine operating temps by providing a richer fuel / air mixture. Made a huge difference in the bikes performace, I just need now to get used to all the power!

DD



Sweet stuff, Desert Dave! Thanks for the before-during-after rundown. Your final numbers are not bad for these bikes given they come with a mild cam, moderate compression and heads that flow only so-so.

If I had the time and $$$, I'd love to see what kind of numbers I could get with head work, high compression pistons and a more aggressive cam. Oh, well. Maybe after the w______y runs out...
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Re: H.P and Torque After Tune
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2009, 10:55:59 PM »
RickC,

I agree with you, a hotter cam and some head work would be the ultimate ticket.....Until that day comes, the new tune is a significant gain in HP / TQ, that upgrades the sound, and it runs a whole lot cooler.  That CC is a power robbing heat maker that had to go...

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Re: H.P and Torque After Tune
« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2009, 03:27:40 PM »
Rode bike for first time Sunday afternoon after adding Fulsacs, and tuned with the Pro-Sert with some buddies.
Cruising at 80 mph and punched down to go around them, I was impressed on how quickly I jumped to 100 plus.
Now, if the Heat issue is lessened, I will be satisfied with the investment.

I, at this time agree that the CC,s are power robbers.

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Re: H.P and Torque After Tune
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2009, 07:14:49 PM »
Desert Dave
I have an 09 use4 with the same mods as you.  I have not had it dyno tuned yet and have been running the base map in the SERT.
Just curious how lean was it with the base map?

Thanks
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