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[marsred204]

Does anyone run these on a stock bike. If you have please give some input.

                         Alan

[dartman]

Does anyone run these on a stock bike. If you have please give some input.

                         Alan

Id be running them on my SERG but Nightrider has not developed then for the 09 baggers, I used them on my 07 screamin Eagle Ultra with excellent results, the 13.8 AFR in closed loop was perfect for cooler running and increased drivability, I finally opted for the IEDs with 14.2 a  little less top end pull but they felt better in the 2000 to 3000 rpm range, on a stock bike they make a noticeable improvement. http://www.nightrider.com/parts/

[RBFB]

I have used both the IED and XIED, on my 08 SERK, I thought they helped with the way it ran. I since have a PCV with auto tune, so I don't really need them anymore, I will sell both sets for $55 shipped if you want to try them.

[BillH]

Started with the IED's on my '08 FLTR, then got the XIED's when they came out.  I like 'em - easy install, immediate heat relief, bike runs better.  Until I get the funds for cams, 103 kit, tuner, these seem to do the job.  For what it's worth, easy to remove if "warranty" is a concern.

Billh

[Firechief2]

I have used them on my 08 Ultra for the last year and like them (XIED). Took them off when I had the dealer do the head enhancement and it didn't take me long to decide to re-install them --- there was a noticeable difference in the heat.

[grc]

Just in case there is any confusion out there, the Nightrider devices only affect the air-fuel ratio when the bike is running in closed loop mode (using the data from the O² sensors to control AFR).  The Harley system goes to open loop mode on cold starts and warm-up, and also at higher rpms and higher throttle openings.  So while the devices can be very beneficial on a stock bike, modifications beyond a different set of mufflers will probably need something more in the  way of tuning.  I personally think they are a great idea for those who are keeping their bikes stock, for those who worry about a-hole dealerships and the MoCo screwing with the warranty coverage, or for those who plan to eventually make modifications but haven't decided on particulars yet.  They are relatively inexpensive (actually they are dirt cheap for an item sold for use on a Harley), and when the time comes for mods and a tuning device they should be easy to sell to the next guy.  I can't think of any real negatives, as long as folks understand what they can and cannot do.

Jerry

[Talon]

Just in case there is any confusion out there, the Nightrider devices only affect the air-fuel ratio when the bike is running in closed loop mode (using the data from the O² sensors to control AFR).  The Harley system goes to open loop mode on cold starts and warm-up, and also at higher rpms and higher throttle openings.  So while the devices can be very beneficial on a stock bike, modifications beyond a different set of mufflers will probably need something more in the  way of tuning.  I personally think they are a great idea for those who are keeping their bikes stock, for those who worry about a-hole dealerships and the MoCo screwing with the warranty coverage, or for those who plan to eventually make modifications but haven't decided on particulars yet.  They are relatively inexpensive (actually they are dirt cheap for an item sold for use on a Harley), and when the time comes for mods and a tuning device they should be easy to sell to the next guy.  I can't think of any real negatives, as long as folks understand what they can and cannot do.

Jerry

I agree, I think there was what they were meant for, so people with stock bikes didn't have to go out and spend $300-$400 to cool their bikes down.

[Gutter Man]

I have had them on my FBSE since it was new and they do work according to my A/F gauge. I have an innovate LM-2 portable gauge that I made a bracket to fit into the end of the Exhaust pipe. stock the bike was 14.7/1 and higher. after I took the cat out and put on the VIED and set them to 14.2 I actually had the same as stock 14.7/1. If I would have left the cat in I am sure it would have been down to the 14.2/1. Now I have a set of V&H big radius 2 into 2 and my A/F is into the 15/1 and touching 16/1 at times. I adjusted my VIED to 13.8/1 but still getting high readings. Backfire and gurgle on decelleration is annoying with the lean condition. I did a couple of plug chops at a few different throttle positions and my plugs are very light at the end of the electrode but get slightly darker towards the base. IMO too lean for me and I am scheduled for a TTS mastertune. As long as it is warm out and I dont get on it I will be fine until the tune.
Something I did try and it seems to help with the decel pop is to take a black rag and wrap it around the air cleaner and then put my cover on. this seems to make it run a little richer by restricting the air intake. I did not verify this with the a/f gauge yet because I took it off for now, but like I said the backfire is quite a bit less.
Too sum things up the Xied will work for a stock bike and for a little extra the VIed is adjustable. I will be selling my VEID in a couple of weeks after the tune if anybody is interested.
Gutter Man

[boerne free bird]

Just in case there is any confusion out there, the Nightrider devices only affect the air-fuel ratio when the bike is running in closed loop mode (using the data from the O² sensors to control AFR).  The Harley system goes to open loop mode on cold starts and warm-up, and also at higher rpms and higher throttle openings.  So while the devices can be very beneficial on a stock bike, modifications beyond a different set of mufflers will probably need something more in the  way of tuning.  I personally think they are a great idea for those who are keeping their bikes stock, for those who worry about a-hole dealerships and the MoCo screwing with the warranty coverage, or for those who plan to eventually make modifications but haven't decided on particulars yet.  They are relatively inexpensive (actually they are dirt cheap for an item sold for use on a Harley), and when the time comes for mods and a tuning device they should be easy to sell to the next guy.  I can't think of any real negatives, as long as folks understand what they can and cannot do.

Jerry

What he said 

[marsred204]

Well I installed the XiED's on my '08 FSXTSSE2 on Friday. I've put a couple hundred miles on this weekend and my right leg loves that it doesn't need a marinade after the ride. She idles well in traffic also. This is the best most inexpensive tip for the rider who , at least for now, want's a stock bike.

                                                                 Alan

[dartman]

Well I installed the XiED's on my '08 FSXTSSE2 on Friday. I've put a couple hundred miles on this weekend and my right leg loves that it doesn't need a marinade after the ride. She idles well in traffic also. This is the best most inexpensive tip for the rider who , at least for now, want's a stock bike.

                                                                 Alan

I agree, they increased drivability considerably on my 07, I just hope they can develop something compatible with the 09 baggers

[RBFB]

Well I installed the XiED's on my '08 FSXTSSE2 on Friday. I've put a couple hundred miles on this weekend and my right leg loves that it doesn't need a marinade after the ride. She idles well in traffic also. This is the best most inexpensive tip for the rider who , at least for now, want's a stock bike.

                                                                 Alan

I'm glad they worked out for you. Did you try the IED's?

[marsred204]

Rob,

   I havn't tried the iED's yet. I'm not sure if I want to as I'm very happy with the results I currently have. She is going in for her 5K this week, maybe after that I'll give them a try.

                                                Alan

[RBFB]

I liked the IED's better for me, I can't really say why, but they just seemed a little better for me, but everyone is different and like different things. I would try them when you get around to it.

[ygeorgey]

I was thinking about this option as I am a warranty worry wart.  Where do you plug in.  Also is the a/f data stored to where the dealer could find it??  Most of my riding is done in other states and my consern is failure on a trip.