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It has been entertaining in a twisted kind of way.    Politics: �Poli� a Latin word meaning �many�; and tics meaning �bloodsucking creatures�.

Robin Williams

But entertaining, none the less...

[HOGMIKE]

Does anyone have experience with the Fuel Moto power package?  $1299.00 with free shipping includes stainless headers with 2 sets of O2 bungs (12mm and 18mm) for stock or wide-band oxygen sensors +dyno tuned mufflers +Power Commander V, with auto tune, and a custom map.  I think I will go this route unless I hear alot of negative feedback.  I don't know if this is acceptable, but the following link leads to another forum, but shows impressive results (maybe biased results, since they are provided by the selling company).  I haven't heard much about Fuel Motos stuff on the forums.

http://hdforums.com/forum/touring-models/454795-2010-cvo-110-fuel-moto-dyno-testing-and-tuning-info.html

If links to outside forums is not allowed, I appologize.  I will understand if the link is removed.

I guess the quick answer to the origional question is:  NO??

 

[ScreaminStreetGlide]

I guess the quick answer to the original question is:  NO??

 

Thanks Hog.....I think  

I did get some valuable information from this thread.  I just want a cool running, strong running bike.  I am now thinking about a MasterTune and a good dynotune....forget about the autotune.  The main reason I wanted the Fuel Moto head pipe was to accommodate the wideband sensors that come with the PCV with autotune and retain the ability to switch back to the stock 12mm sensors if I decided to later.  I may now just get what I really want, "true dual" headers.

[HOGMIKE]

Thanks Hog.....I think  

I did get some valuable information from this thread.  I just want a cool running, strong running bike.  I am now thinking about a MasterTune and a good dynotune....forget about the autotune.  The main reason I wanted the Fuel Moto head pipe was to accommodate the wideband sensors that come with the PCV with autotune and retain the ability to switch back to the stock 12mm sensors if I decided to later.  I may now just get what I really want, "true dual" headers.

To each his own!
I have the mastertune and dyno on the 2010
I also have true duals on one of the older bikes...
2 different bikes, different personalities.
I love 'em both! They both do what I set them up to do!
I think you are wise to check all your options, and get feedback from others on what works for them, and make a decision based on your research, and what you are looking for.
 

[Highwaystar]

 Here is an excellent source of information on how and why wide band works.  http://www.megamanual.com/PWC/LSU4.htm   True duals are for sound and heat reduction only and can actually reduce performance. 

[ScreaminStreetGlide]

Here is an excellent source of information on how and why wide band works.  http://www.megamanual.com/PWC/LSU4.htm   True duals are for sound and heat reduction only and can actually reduce performance. 

Form over function......I just can't get past to look of the 2:1:2 setups.  I am going with the V&H Dresser Duals and V&H Monster Rounds (slip ons) along with the TTS MasterTune.  I will then get it dynotuned by Horspower Inc. here in Erie and hope for the best.

[harleyguynv]

I am in the minority here also. I have the PCV with Auto Tune and couldn't be happier. Out of curiosity I put it on a dyno to see how accurate it is and it was spot on.

[Diamondback]

 

[Steve Cole]

I am in the minority here also. I have the PCV with Auto Tune and couldn't be happier. Out of curiosity I put it on a dyno to see how accurate it is and it was spot on.

You are saying it was spot on, but the question is, spot on to what? Dynojet uses the same sensors and has the same issues from the sensors in both the dyno and PC-V. Look this is not about mine's bigger than yours. If your going to claim that things are right/wrong, spot on or off you need to test with equipment that will measure properly. So if the dyno sensor agrees with the PC-V sensor that's great but it in no way means it's spot on or event accurate. All that matter is you are happy with your purchases and it does what you want.

[HOGMIKE]

You are saying it was spot on, but the question is, spot on to what? Dynojet uses the same sensors and has the same issues from the sensors in both the dyno and PC-V. Look this is not about mine's bigger than yours. If your going to claim that things are right/wrong, spot on or off you need to test with equipment that will measure properly. So if the dyno sensor agrees with the PC-V sensor that's great but it in no way means it's spot on or event accurate. All that matter is you are happy with your purchases and it does what you want.

 
I talk to some of our members here, and they use different methods of tuning, most are very happy with what they have.........until..........
I go cruising by, up hill, 2-up, loaded, without straining!!!! LOL

 

[SBB]

I talk to some of our members here, and they use different methods of tuning, most are very happy with what they have.........until..........
I go cruising by, up hill, 2-up, loaded, without straining!!!! LOL

 

WHOOHOO
Now that's funny!
Go Mike! ! ! !

SBB

[ScreaminStreetGlide]

This whole thing is a headache.  I want a carburetor! (not really)

[Highwaystar]

Is it true that Steve Cole is the owner of TTS Master tune? Steve, what is your point of view on wide band with auto tune function. Do you agree or disagree with power improvements and specifically are you developing or have you tuned with PC-V?

[SteveFLHTK]

Did you read the article that Steve posted a link to?  Autotune ad the PCV doesn't use a true wideband sensor.

[sadunbar]

Is it true that Steve Cole is the owner of TTS Master tune? Steve, what is your point of view on wide band with auto tune function. Do you agree or disagree with power improvements and specifically are you developing or have you tuned with PC-V?

Steve designed and manufactured the original Harley Davidson SERT and designed and manufactures the TTS Master tune...