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Re: 103 cu.in.
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2010, 01:36:07 PM »

As the guy that runs the dyno, CVO 103 will whoop a CVO 110 everytime.  The more recent 103's are for sure not hte same motor.  But if you pull up on a 04 or 05 cvo 103 stock on your 110 stock and want to bet some money I will be happy to take it.  Just had a '10 110 on the rack that other take that eck'd out a sorry 69hp and 89 ft
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Re: 103 cu.in.
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2010, 06:38:02 PM »

As the guy that runs the dyno, CVO 103 will whoop a CVO 110 everytime.  The more recent 103's are for sure not hte same motor.  But if you pull up on a 04 or 05 cvo 103 stock on your 110 stock and want to bet some money I will be happy to take it.  Just had a '10 110 on the rack that other take that eck'd out a sorry 69hp and 89 ft

Here's the dyno on my stock 110 with stock exhaust (with catalytic converter) before getting the engine upgraded..... 77/100 straight "out of the box". I'd be interested in seeing any "bone stock" 103 with stock exhaust putting out more. The reason the earlier 103s performed better in stock mode is simply because they were mapped from the factory for richer fuel flow since the EPA standards were lower. In order to make the certification emission standards now they've simply leaned out the fuel supply. Take a current 103 and enrichen the fuel and you'll get similar performance (assuming non-cat exhaust) to the earlier 103s. Same goes for a current 110. If you enrichen the fuel flow to what the engine likes vs what the government likes you'll have more performance and a happier motor.

If you have a "happy" 103 and a "happy" 110, the 110 will dust the 103 every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

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Re: 103 cu.in.
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2010, 07:37:35 PM »

Heatwave... I couldn't agree more. :orange: And further more, that's why i made mine a 117 and yes it's faster, quicker and my friend with a 120 is faster than me! Can you imagine? :mango: That's untill i hit the nitrous then add 30 hp!!
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Re: 103 cu.in.
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2010, 08:24:51 PM »

Well Cobb is Just Sayin
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Re: 103 cu.in.
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2010, 03:08:28 PM »

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Re: 103 cu.in.
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2010, 03:10:08 PM »

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Re: 103 cu.in.
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2010, 03:19:46 PM »

Ok if you say so just sayin.
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Re: 103 cu.in.
« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2010, 03:26:16 PM »

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Re: 103 cu.in.
« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2010, 05:44:56 PM »

Unbalanced I remember riding your wifes 103 and leaving behind a built 110...and since it wasn't my bike I did not even ride it hard :huepfenlol2:

The 110 falls flat on it's face at 4g....say bye bye to the 103 :soapbox:
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Re: 103 cu.in.
« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2010, 06:28:16 PM »

Unbalanced I remember riding your wifes 103 and leaving behind a built 110...and since it wasn't my bike I did not even ride it hard :huepfenlol2:

The 110 falls flat on it's face at 4g....say bye bye to the 103 :soapbox:

So go ahead and show me a dyno of a stock 103 with stock exhaust that performs better than the 110 dyno above. Any 103 running stock form will die at 4k just like a 110 only at lower HP and torque....guaranteed. And there are tons of 110 dynos that scream all the way to 6000. All a matter of how they are setup. In stock form the 110 trumps a stock 103 every time. And for the same $ you can generate significantly more power from a 110 than you can a 103.
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Re: 103 cu.in.
« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2010, 10:19:36 PM »

A dyno man or computer person can make a dyno sheet say whatever lets put'em on the street and run'em like we did in the old days. Just sayin.
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Re: 103 cu.in.
« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2010, 10:46:57 PM »

I recently bought a 2010 FLHTP with a 103, the low end torque is amazing, I call it my "Obama" bike since it's black and white.  ;D
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Re: 103 cu.in.
« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2010, 10:49:10 PM »

A dyno man or computer person can make a dyno sheet say whatever lets put'em on the street and run'em like we did in the old days. Just sayin.

Agreed...so it should be pretty easy to find a stock 103 with stock exhaust that outperforms the stock 110 dyno above....shouldn't it?
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Re: 103 cu.in.
« Reply #28 on: July 07, 2010, 06:03:45 AM »

heck yes,  ive sen a well tuned 96  that can out perform a 110, so a 103 is no problem
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Re: 103 cu.in.
« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2010, 08:05:47 AM »

heck yes,  ive sen a well tuned 96  that can out perform a 110, so a 103 is no problem

Let's compare apples to apples, not oranges. Everyone agrees that a modified or even a very well tuned smaller displacement big twin can outperform a larger displacement big twin that's in stock form.

That's not the question. The question is whether when comparing apples to apples (stock to stock or even equal $ mods) which engine will perform stronger. The answer is unequivocal. The 110 will always outperform a similarly "dressed" 103.

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