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[1sharprdkg]

OK, sorry if this is posted already. Searched but unable to find. I just bought some 09 Catless Headpipes from a member and read someone suggested getting them Ceramic Coated before I use them. Sounds like a good idea. Less heat and stuff. 1.What companys are doing the coating? 2. Are any close to Tennessee? 3. What would cost be to ceramic coat my pipes? 

[charles05663]

I had mine done by JetHot and it cost about $225 to have the pipe de-chromed and coated.  This included the cross-over pipe.

[Joram]

Charles,

Has it helped with the heat?  Inside of my left leg and my ladies left foot get baked and broiled on long summer tips on the 08 SEUC..  Was looking into some heat wrap, but to many "bad" comments on the forum about it destroying the pipes.  Also, were you able to put the all the chrome heat shields back on?

[charles05663]

Joram,

I bought the catless pipe and had the coating done before I installed it on the bike.  Before, I had a pipe with the cat and it really ran hot.  From my understanding the ceramic coating does help, I just don't have know that the difference is and I know the biggie was the removal of the cat.

Charles

[cahdbiker]

1sharprdkg, I would go along with the other guys who went with the ceramic coating. I couldn't tell you the difference with or without the coating in regards to the heat difference,(because I had the ceramic coating done before I had ever put the catless headpipe on ) but I can say that the amount of heat coming from my bike is greatly reduced. To use a worn out  phrase the difference is like "night and day ".Also since I live in SOCAL where I ride in 95 to 100 degree weather on a regular basis the difference is greatly appreciated.  The function where the rear cylinder shuts off at idle to cool the engine when the temp is hot outside has not happened once since I changed out to the noncat ceramic pipe with 1.75 Fulsacs, mastertune, and S.E. high flow air filter, before I made the changes it used to shut off on a regular basis at a red light or waiting on a train etc. The company that coated mine charged me $185.00. They are about 30 miles from my house, but I think the shipping costs would be prohibitive since you are pretty far away. Also I had asked Steve at Fulsac about wrapping the pipes an I believe he told me that I might have an issue getting the heat shields back on. GoodLuck. CAHDBIKER

[HOGMIKE]

1sharprdkg, I would go along with the other guys who went with the ceramic coating. I couldn't tell you the difference with or without the coating in regards to the heat difference,(because I had the ceramic coating done before I had ever put the catless headpipe on ) but I can say that the amount of heat coming from my bike is greatly reduced. To use a worn out  phrase the difference is like "night and day ".Also since I live in SOCAL where I ride in 95 to 100 degree weather on a regular basis the difference is greatly appreciated.  The function where the rear cylinder shuts off at idle to cool the engine when the temp is hot outside has not happened once since I changed out to the noncat ceramic pipe with 1.75 Fulsacs, mastertune, and S.E. high flow air filter, before I made the changes it used to shut off on a regular basis at a red light or waiting on a train etc. The company that coated mine charged me $185.00. They are about 30 miles from my house, but I think the shipping costs would be prohibitive since you are pretty far away. Also I had asked Steve at Fulsac about wrapping the pipes an I believe he told me that I might have an issue getting the heat shields back on. GoodLuck. CAHDBIKER

I wrapped my head pipes, the heat shields will fit back on easily. IMO there is really no difference in heat reduction. I took it off. There MAY be an issue of keeping too much heat in the pipe material, along with moisture being trapped beneath the wrap. I chose to remove it.
I also went with the x-pipe, already coated. I THINK the heat has reduced a bit, I'll find out end of this month when we take the next trip, pulling the trailer!
JMHO

[Joram]

lookking to add Non-CAT V&H head pipes to my 08 SEUC. Already have the V&H Monster 3" ovals on.  Talked to head mech at dealer and he told me if they put on the head pipes, K&N filter, fuelpack and tune the bike, there will be no "warranty" issue on the engine...  Looking to do that because I have the extended warranty until 2015.

Right now I am looking for more ways to cool down the bike and make it a more comfortable ride..  Have to see if dealer will send out for coating and what they will charge me.

I assume I have to coat the pipes from the head all the way back to the muffler connection. Correct?   Should I have anything done to the mufflers?

[Dracula]

Simply gutting the CAT and installing bigger baffles (Fullsac 2.25") helped my heat issue a lot.  Cylinder kill doesn't happen near as much and it's much cooler.  I'm not saying it's cool...but it is better.

[Keats]

I did not have cats, but did have JETHOT coat my Fatcats.

The result was it was hot before coating and it was hot after the coating.

I am not saying that it might have helped (I am sure it did help) but if the pipe reduced temp 30 degrees it is still hot.

Hard to tell the difference between 300 deg and 270 degress, both are hot.

I did measure a difference, but seat of the pants would not confirm it.....

[grc]

     As Einstein once said, it's all relative.   And as I once said as I sucked on my finger, damn that's hot!


Jerry

[1sharprdkg]

I did not have cats, but did have JETHOT coat my Fatcats.

The result was it was hot before coating and it was hot after the coating.

I am not saying that it might have helped (I am sure it did help) but if the pipe reduced temp 30 degrees it is still hot.

Hard to tell the difference between 300 deg and 270 degress, both are hot.

I did measure a difference, but seat of the pants would not confirm it.....

Thanks Keats, lot of good feedback being posted. What you said was kind of how I was thinking the results would be. I am still on the fence about spending the money for coating. I think making the air/exhaust flow better with AC and catless headpipe will be more worthwhile.

[Mr D]

My headpipes are ceramic coated, The claim is cooler temps  The seat of the pants feel can't confirm that, but for us CVO chrome guru's they sure look pertty....
 

[miker]

Temperature is different than heat...The coating helps move the heat not reduce temperature..Clear as mud now?

Heat is energy, temperature is not.

"Temperature is a number that is related to the average kinetic energy of the molecules of a substance.
Heat is a measurement of the total energy in a substance. That total energy is made up of not only of the kinetic energies of the molecules of the substance, but total energy is also made up of the potential energies of the molecules."
 

Oh, and coated pipes look bitchinner..

[indcoltz]

I did the test,,, I took my 08 with stock headers in the dyno room and ran it until the heat management took over. I also took readings with a digital thermometer. I then added the Jet Hot sterling silver ceramic coated headers that were gutted along with fullsac 2 inch baffles in my stock mufflers and ran it again in the same dyno room using the same digital thermometer. There was a significant difference in the temps coming from around the rear jug and header the same area tested previously. The techs and the dealer were both amazed at the difference. The dealer now recommends the ceramic coatings to his customers that are complaining of heat. I have since added a race tuner and it again is even running cooler yet. But you have to remember, this is a bigger engine than the 80s and 88s from the past and they are going to be hotter. You will also find that they cool down very fast. I figured if these guys with hundreds of thousands of dollars in these race engines are using them to help keep things cooler they must know more than I do.

[tjstreetglide]

1sharprdkg, I would go along with the other guys who went with the ceramic coating. I couldn't tell you the difference with or without the coating in regards to the heat difference,(because I had the ceramic coating done before I had ever put the catless headpipe on ) but I can say that the amount of heat coming from my bike is greatly reduced. To use a worn out  phrase the difference is like "night and day ".Also since I live in SOCAL where I ride in 95 to 100 degree weather on a regular basis the difference is greatly appreciated.  The function where the rear cylinder shuts off at idle to cool the engine when the temp is hot outside has not happened once since I changed out to the noncat ceramic pipe with 1.75 Fulsacs, mastertune, and S.E. high flow air filter, before I made the changes it used to shut off on a regular basis at a red light or waiting on a train etc. The company that coated mine charged me $185.00. They are about 30 miles from my house, but I think the shipping costs would be prohibitive since you are pretty far away. Also I had asked Steve at Fulsac about wrapping the pipes an I believe he told me that I might have an issue getting the heat shields back on. GoodLuck. CAHDBIKER

I wrapped my pipes on my 06 SG. I unwrapped my pipes a day later. I could have sworn that it got hotter.