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[hard10]

WATER BUGS!!  HA!  I kill me!!

    That's too funny!

[Gecko]

The bad part of that is, it would take them about ten years after the first year of production, to get all the bugs worked out.

I know there is no way I would buy one of the first year ones; they couldn't even get a slightly enlarged version of an existing engine right.  Imagine the leaks they could do with an additional fluid to work with - anyone want to bet they have their own coolant and some dealer will say you'll void the warranty if you use anything else? 

They could go a long way toward more stable temperature on what they have if they put a better oil cooling system on them.  An Oil Bud with a fan and a duct from the chin would help and be less intrussive than a big radiator in front.

[ican]

Oil cooling has proven to be an option. To be effective, a larger reservoir with a secondary pump would be needed. Circulating the oil from the reservoir thru a cooling system (radiator) will reduce the operating Temp. This method has been used for years and is proven effective.  Don and Pam

[tazmun]

Oil cooling has proven to be an option. To be effective, a larger reservoir with a secondary pump would be needed. Circulating the oil from the reservoir thru a cooling system (radiator) will reduce the operating Temp. This method has been used for years and is proven effective.  Don and Pam

Oh no........more oil leaks! Which cars have oil cooling?

I think water works just fine.

[willymax4]

make it run ok right out of the box?
that'll never happen as long as the moco can keep bamboozeling us out of a butt load of money to make our bikes run like they should.
 the parts counters and service departments would turn into ghost towns.

[HOGMIKE]

Local builder has had a "Road Rod" for years here.......the factory is working on it.

[ican]

Oil cooling is used in several industrial applications. Don't know of anyone useing it in the automotive. Victory uses it on their bikes, but they are using a conventional oil cooler. We built some Nissan race motors that had cooling issues, They were dry sump oil systems, and by adding a pump and circulating the oil from the dry sump tank, we were able to control the problem. Is a seperate oil cooling system added to an air cooled engine going to be enough? I believe that would take a re-design of the existing engine. More power = more heat. I do know that my EVO runs cooler than my 09, and 2010 Twin Cam models.  Don and Pam

[JETCVO]

    That's too funny!

They already have the engine! 

[mrmagloo]

I think they did a great job on the Revolution Motor. Granted, they got a lot of help on it, but the reality is, an 1800 to 2000 cc version could be a real sweet set up.  I sure hope they use the Revolution as the blue print, instead of trying to hack a water-cooled version of the current unbalanced relic.

[ridefar]

A liquid cooled Ultra! That would be the hook to get me to spend some money. My fellow geezers(50 plus) are in agreement that we cannot take cooking atop the present design any longer. We want power, reliability, comfort along with the "cool factor" without having to screw with it (meaning spend lots more money) right out of the box. Some of us are even ready to relinquish the cool factor in order to get the other attributes. BMW is coming out with an inline 6 cyl touring bike for 2011 with shaft drive, 160 hp, 70% of rediculous torque available at just 1500rpm and a technical marvel.  I figure pricing close to the retail of my 2004 SEEG when new. Yeah, stuff will go wrong with that also, but I havta look... C"mon Harley do something to keep us geezers around!

[Racerdj]

I'm ready if reliable.

[Air-Cooled]

BMW's best selling bagger, the r1200RT, is ail and oil cooled. It runs just fine.

[Jerry/MD]

A liquid cooled Ultra! That would be the hook to get me to spend some money. My fellow geezers(50 plus) are in agreement that we cannot take cooking atop the present design any longer. We want power, reliability, comfort along with the "cool factor" without having to screw with it (meaning spend lots more money) right out of the box. Some of us are even ready to relinquish the cool factor in order to get the other attributes. BMW is coming out with an inline 6 cyl touring bike for 2011 with shaft drive, 160 hp, 70% of rediculous torque available at just 1500rpm and a technical marvel.  I figure pricing close to the retail of my 2004 SEEG when new. Yeah, stuff will go wrong with that also, but I havta look... C"mon Harley do something to keep us geezers around!

Yep, amazing how your tolerance level changes after you hit the big 50.

If Harley builds a water cooled bike that maintains the look...and sound...I am confident it would be a winner. Yeah, you will hear the whining from some about selling out and abandoning the classic design...but ya gotta move on. Besides, the CVO's and the standard baggers have every other creature comfort...why not a cool running motor?

[ridefar]

BMW's best selling bagger, the r1200RT, is ail and oil cooled. It runs just fine.

   I have a 2009 R1200RT. It is an awesome bike and does its job well. Just different tools for each job. Started out years ago on a 1978 R100/7 and have found that I  feel unfullfilled without a  Beemer in the garage. Did anybody see the liquid cooled HD project at the museum from 30 years ago? If you look real close you can see the radiator under the seat! What a brilliant concept! I think it was a Willie G design.

[guppytrash]

  I have a 2009 R1200RT. It is an awesome bike and does its job well. Just different tools for each job. Started out years ago on a 1978 R100/7 and have found that I  feel unfullfilled without a  Beemer in the garage. Did anybody see the liquid cooled HD project at the museum from 30 years ago? If you look real close you can see the radiator under the seat! What a brilliant concept! I think it was a Willie G design.

I saw it and thought the same thing...brilliant!  Not so brilliant that they did not pull the trigger on that idea.
Seems to me they are starting to lose customers with the hot motors and required 2grand after purchase to make them run.
I love my current HD but it is the last air cooled motorcycle that will be purchased new by me.  
I hope in a year or two I won't need to switch brands.
Nothing against the v-rod motor but I want water cooled with torque for a big heavy bagger.