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[1abastarsmda]

That seemed to be the implication, but I guess I'd like to know a little more about why he said it's junk.

[hard10]

I wonder if I encounter any more problems with my 110" that is still under warranty, they would be willing to replace it with the 120"?

[ultrafxr]

I wonder if I encounter any more problems with my 110" that is still under warranty, they would be willing to replace it with the 120"?

For $5,400.   

[hogasm]

i am going to guess by his reply is that he bought 1 and it was junk.

Axil works on them [harleys]  every day

[DCFIREMANN]

Thanks Hogasm you beat me toooo it. Axil has run into a quite a few problems with the JIMS 120 motors. A couple of them he actually sent me pics of, because I had my doubts. If I had my chance to do a motor change I would do a complete rebuild of my HD cases with S&S and Axtel parts. I would never install a crank assy without having it welded in these heavy bikes. As far as the newer HD cylinders we all know what the story is there. At least HD may have gotten a grip on the cam chain tensioner, cam plate and oil pump!

It seems that all of these big company's are interested in the BOTTOM DOLLAR ONLY!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[SBB]

Axil has run into a quite a few problems with the JIMS 120 motors. A couple of them he actually sent me pics of, because I had my doubts.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

Which goes back to my original question,

And how did you reach that conclusion?

     

Seemed a simple enough question.
What is wrong with a 120 that causes you to consider them junk?
Inquiring minds want to know.

 

SBB

[1abastarsmda]

Which goes back to my original question,

Seemed a simple enough question.
What is wrong with a 120 that causes you to consider them junk?
Inquiring minds want to know.

 

SBB

Yup!  What he said.   

[DCFIREMANN]

I would guess he calls them junk because of the problems he has run into while working on them. The motor is no better than your 110 motors, and warranty takes forever. To keep warranty you must inspect and or change your lifters every 5k. The crank assy is just like the one in your motors now. The only thing you are getting is a larger displacement. If you go back and read all of the problems with the CVO motors that will answer your question. If you really want a 120 inch motor call the guys over in Elkridge Maryland. They do build a good one from the ground up!!!!

Like I said in my above post I would rebuild your motor from the ground up using your factory cases using S&S and Axtel parts. And if you think that the 120 motor is a bargin go ahead and buy one. But when you have a problem with it, you have been warned!!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[SBB]

I would guess he calls them junk because of the problems he has run into while working on them. The motor is no better than your 110 motors, and warranty takes forever. To keep warranty you must inspect and or change your lifters every 5k. The crank assy is just like the one in your motors now. The only thing you are getting is a larger displacement. If you go back and read all of the problems with the CVO motors that will answer your question. If you really want a 120 inch motor call the guys over in Elkridge Maryland. They do build a good one from the ground up!!!!

Like I said in my above post I would rebuild your motor from the ground up using your factory cases using S&S and Axtel parts. And if you think that the 120 motor is a bargin go ahead and buy one. But when you have a problem with it, you have been warned!!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

So Dawg is this like,   , your the official Axil spokes person or what?
That's cool but you also didn't answer the question asked of him.

To keep warranty you must inspect and or change your lifters every 5k.

Jim's is a viable option for many members here, are you saying that Jim's requires lifters to be inspected or changed every 5K?
Is that in their sales brochure or warranty information?
People that plan to spend 5, 6, 7K dollars or more want facts about an item they are investing in.

But when you have a problem with it, you have been warned!!!!!

Facts man, that's why the original question was asked.
Facts will help everyone here to learn.
Drama may increase post count but unless facts are told, drama means nothing.

The motor is no better than your 110 motors

Yes I have had issues from my 09 110 but after 39K miles in 20 months I bet I have spent less on my 110 motor than you have on your 103.
Inquiring minds want to know.

SBB

[FR8TRN]

The fact is nobody has seen this engine yet, it was just released, when I called Chicago HD they said they had none in yet and weren't sure when they would start shipping.  But everyone is comparing this to a Jim's and it's not a Jim's.  From the description.

Hand assembled alongside Harley-Davidson’s production
Twin Cam engines at the Pilgrim Road Engine Plant in
Milwaukee, these race-use engines feature only the finest
Screamin’ Eagle components:

Now while that may not scream reliability, it does make it known that this is not a Jim's engine.

Folks who work on them see the problems with them, why, because nobody brings them a bike thats running great and they want it fixed.

[SBB]

The fact is nobody has seen this engine yet, it was just released, when I called Chicago HD they said they had none in yet and weren't sure when they would start shipping.  But everyone is comparing this to a Jim's and it's not a Jim's.  From the description.

Hand assembled alongside Harley-Davidson’s production
Twin Cam engines at the Pilgrim Road Engine Plant in
Milwaukee, these race-use engines feature only the finest
Screamin’ Eagle components:

Now while that may not scream reliability, it does make it known that this is not a Jim's engine.

Folks who work on them see the problems with them, why, because nobody brings them a bike thats running great and they want it fixed.

A new 120" motor from Harley.

Hand assembled alongside Harley-Davidson’s production
Twin Cam engines at the Pilgrim Road Engine Plant in
Milwaukee,

Should be interesting to see if it's NEW or if the assembly location has been changed for the old 120.

SBB

[FR8TRN]

A new 120" motor from Harley.

Should be interesting to see if it's NEW or if the assembly location has been changed for the old 120.

SBB

The Jims 120 is still listed in the 2011 SE Catalog (doesn't anybody look at these things) and the specs between the Jims 120 and the SE120R (listed seperate from the Jims) are completely different.  What I see is folks calling this engine junk based on previous history with HD engines, which is a good basis to start from, but damn, give it a chance to fail before claiming you know everything about it (not you SBB).

[Rooster]

Maybe the Moco is hoping to use this new motor later if enough people buy (new test pilots) before they actually put it in one of thier bikes and create 07 over again. I am NOT going to be a test pilot this time.

[partycrasher]

doesn't look like they have welded the crank on these120 motors.....and they report pretty big power numbers.

[DCFIREMANN]

So Dawg is this like,   , your the official Axil spokes person or what?
That's cool but you also didn't answer the question asked of him.

Jim's is a viable option for many members here, are you saying that Jim's requires lifters to be inspected or changed every 5K?
Is that in their sales brochure or warranty information?
People that plan to spend 5, 6, 7K dollars or more want facts about an item they are investing in.

Facts man, that's why the original question was asked.
Facts will help everyone here to learn.
Drama may increase post count but unless facts are told, drama means nothing.

Yes I have had issues from my 09 110 but after 39K miles in 20 months I bet I have spent less on my 110 motor than you have on your 103.Inquiring minds want to know.

SBB

You must have paid for an extended warranty. If that is the case you have spent more than I have.

The facts are what they are. Go talk to some people that have a Jims 120. Axil does not live on here, so you may want to wait for him and IF YOU THINK THE JIMS MOTOR IS A VIABLE OPTION YOU HAVE HAD ME FOOLED FOR A FEW YEARS!!!!lol.

Be Safe

THE DAWG