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NativTexan

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Re: 2011 FLHXSE2 CVO CB ADDITION DIY?
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2010, 10:30:54 AM »

I know that everyone is losing a lot of power due to the length/size of the wire going to the back of the bike.  I am hoping with the shorter wire directly from the CB to the antenea will have less loss but with it being smaller and inside the fairing, that will probably equalize.
I have a SWR meter and might try to see what I get during the install.   I will keep you up to date once installed.  I got the J&M antenea yesterday but am awaiting special parts ordered from Chicago before I begin.
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Re: 2011 FLHXSE2 CVO CB ADDITION DIY?
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2010, 09:52:14 PM »

According to H-D the installation of either the CB or the XM is not a "tested application." My mechanic spent a whole day working on installing both on my 2011 CVO Street Glide. The problem is the room taken up by the amp and iPod modules. He has the CB in, but is having to rewire the connectors and hasn't got the thing working right yet. The XM antenna fits, but there's no room for the module
I will try to get some pictures of how he is making the stuff fit to help anyone who wants to install this stuff, but so far the official word is they are "working on it."

As an aside, the bike is also not prewired for passing lamps. They have to splice together a harness for that too.

Don
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Re: 2011 FLHXSE2 CVO CB ADDITION DIY?
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2010, 05:51:36 PM »

As a further update after 2 days of work by an HD trained tech the CB is hooked up, but the radio does not recognize it. They believe it is a software issue.
I think its safe to say at this point even though they will probably get it eventually, this is not a "do it yourself" project.
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Re: 2011 FLHXSE2 CVO CB ADDITION DIY?
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2010, 11:17:00 PM »

According to H-D the installation of either the CB or the XM is not a "tested application." My mechanic spent a whole day working on installing both on my 2011 CVO Street Glide. The problem is the room taken up by the amp and iPod modules. He has the CB in, but is having to rewire the connectors and hasn't got the thing working right yet. The XM antenna fits, but there's no room for the module
I will try to get some pictures of how he is making the stuff fit to help anyone who wants to install this stuff, but so far the official word is they are "working on it."

As an aside, the bike is also not prewired for passing lamps. They have to splice together a harness for that too.

Don

On my 2011 cvo SG, I'm putting the CB module in place of the i-pod. I have xm on my zumo 665 and an mp3 player and it works great. Taking the i-pod out also gets rid of the wire to the saddlebag and cleans it up nice for a solo seat. I'll try the J&M inside fairing mounted radio & CB antennas.
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Re: 2011 FLHXSE2 CVO CB ADDITION DIY?
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2010, 02:02:33 PM »

Thanks for all the information on this.  I have all the parts needed and have my Mechanic (Harley certified) starting on this tomorow. It will be interesting when he gets the fairing off if there is enough room in there etc. 

I like the iPod over my Zumo 660 but it's mostly becuase I havent changed the wiring for the Zumo to be internal.  I have seen on here how to do that and make that part of this project.
That will remove the wiring to the front AUX of the radio.  I understand getting rid of the wiring to the saddlebag but right now I like the computer interface to iPod much more than copying songs to the Zumo.  (Yes I am an iPhone user usingiTunes).
I will update everyone once this project gets underway to let you know if there are any other issues.
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Re: 2011 FLHXSE2 CVO CB ADDITION DIY?
« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2010, 06:19:22 AM »

He should probably have already told you that Harley says it won't work.

It's not so much simply a question of room or configuration under the outer fairing as it is the wiring harness. Harley hays they are "working on it," but for now at least they've given up on making it work on mine. At the moment, though, even though the Intercom system is hooked up and even though the radio was reflashed to (and does) recognize it, it doesn't work, and the music won't even switch over to the headset when it's plugged in and the speaker switch is pushed to the correct position.

Apparently one of the factory technical guys was making the rounds while they had mine open and spent a while looking at it. Even he couldn't answer why they wired the thing this way and had no suggestions to make it work.
 
The next attempt wil involve swapping out the wiring harness under the fairing for the Ultra's harness but those are on backorder through October.
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Re: 2011 FLHXSE2 CVO CB ADDITION DIY?
« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2010, 03:08:50 AM »

Ridgerunner, do you have the part nos. for the various components being installed on your bike?  For example, there are a couple of different kits for installing CB on the bike; and, a non-Ultra overlay harness (p/n 70169-06) would be used tyupically, but may not have been on your bike.

If you have some pictures of what's been installed inside the fairing, it'd be interesting to those considering a similar project.

Hope you get the issues resolved.

Carl
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Re: 2011 FLHXSE2 CVO CB ADDITION DIY?
« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2010, 06:09:18 PM »

Well mine is all hooked up as well.  Same results.  Radio does not recognize the CB, showing not installed.  This problem can only be with the harness.  It doesnt look like this would be that hard.  Now my iPod doesnt work or charge.  I am thinking the harness would be the same one that would be on the Road Glide ultra that has the CB and the iPod.  I am now going to go back over and have my original harness installed until I see someone on here figure this out.  bummer dude....
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Re: 2011 FLHXSE2 CVO CB ADDITION DIY?
« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2010, 04:25:33 PM »

At least it's not just me.

I will get a list of the part numbers tomorrow.  Dealership is closed today.  I did not have a chance to take pictures before they took it all out again.  I know it was a pretty tight fit just to get the CB module in there.
The XM antenna was no big deal, but there was no real space for the XM module itself (although they thought it would fit under the radio if the harness was long enough.)

The radio recognizes the intercom, which is still installed, and it even works (sort of) but the radio does not show the headset icon, no music comes through the headset, and the speaker select switch does not turn off the fairing speakers when pushed to the forward position as it does on my '06 Street Glide.

I'm having the service guys lean on the company to find a solution, and have written them myself.  Maybe if enough people point out how strange it is to sell this level of bike, but design it so it is incapable of taking obvious add-ons they will respond.
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Re: 2011 FLHXSE2 CVO CB ADDITION DIY?
« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2010, 01:36:59 PM »

A couple of guys with CVO Ultras (both post here) installed the Ipod successfully (after correcting the mistakes in the installation instructions for pinouts 19 and 31) and an FLHTK had one installed successfully, also:

http://www.hdforums.com/forum/touring-models/548376-ipod-interface-3.html

While you're waiting to hear from MOCO, I'd ask the tech to replicate the wiring of the 35-wire connector on the FLTRUSE for the CB and XM components, and check the software versions used in the FLTRUSE and SESG2.

Hope you get a good solution soon--you've spent a lot of money for the parts and labor for the kit, and for it not to work is not acceptable.

Carl
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Re: 2011 FLHXSE2 CVO CB ADDITION DIY?
« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2010, 06:51:00 PM »

Thanks, Carl.  I will pass the information on and let you know if it works.
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Re: 2011 FLHXSE2 CVO CB ADDITION DIY?
« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2010, 07:56:06 PM »

In addition to the 35 wire connector issue, the SESG2 does not have (at least I couldn't find one in the wiring diagrams) a 6A "audio harness" like all other non-CVO SG, EG and RG models, but the installation instructions for the CB module refers to making that connection (6A to 6B) from the non-Ultra overlay harness (NUOH) to the interconnect/fairing harness.  Stated another way, the CB installation instructions say to make a connection from the NUOH to a connector that isn't on your bike's wiring. 

If the connector isn't on your bike (and it doesn't appear to be based on the wiring diagrams), the tech will probably need to find a work around solution since those wires that would be found in the "audio harness" 6A are there, just not in a separate connector.

It's been many months since I installed the CB module on my 04 EG as part of retrofitting the Harman Kardon radio, and my memory may not be accurate, but I have a strong recollection that I miswired the audio harness 6A (one of the wiring changes on the 04 was to replace the audio harness connector (the 04 was a 3 wire connector, the '06 and newer is 6 wire; and change the wires) to replicate the '06 and newer audio harness.  And, until I found that mistake, the HK unit did not recognize that the CB was connected.  Like your installation, I used the NUOH with the other connections to it (CB module, rider headset, etc.) 


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Re: 2011 FLHXSE2 CVO CB ADDITION DIY?
« Reply #27 on: September 23, 2010, 11:49:03 AM »

RR58, I will stay on my dealer to continue to call Moco as I am sure you will do the same.  Let me know if you find out any further infomration.  Right now I have had them remove the harness and leave the CB and iBoom kit installed.  Once I get answers I will post them on here.  Until then I will just do without the CB. 
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Re: 2011 FLHXSE2 CVO CB ADDITION DIY?
« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2010, 03:58:52 PM »

Well this seems to be an ongoing issue...I'm about to leave for deployment, however I'm leaving the FLHXSE2 with the dealer while I'm gone. At some point, before I return, I will have them attempt this install. Please continue to update this thread as I will be checking back periodically for a resolution. This is a necessary install for me to ride as a Road Guard for the "Run For The Wall". Thanks to all whom have contributed and will continue to post.
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Re: 2011 FLHXSE2 CVO CB ADDITION DIY?
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2010, 01:14:29 AM »

Harleypingman is correct... no connector 6A for the overlay harness, This is why the radio doesn't 'SEE' the CB module
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