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Re: I Will Buy A New Harley When...
« Reply #90 on: November 09, 2010, 05:01:50 PM »



You mean when the Electric Electra Glide debuts? :D


I'd get a charge out of that!

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Re: I Will Buy A New Harley When...
« Reply #91 on: November 09, 2010, 06:19:57 PM »

It could be an shocking experience.  :bananarock:

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Re: I Will Buy A New Harley When...
« Reply #92 on: November 09, 2010, 06:37:52 PM »

WATT???
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Re: I Will Buy A New Harley When...
« Reply #93 on: December 02, 2010, 12:53:40 PM »

Me... when would I buy a new Harley?  When they get new management.  When they put emphasis back in the quality of their products and the people who buy them.

I've got a 2008 CVO Ultra, aprox. 8000 miles.  Like most I love my cycle.  I've been through the fuel tank recall and my heads, cylinders, and pistons have been replaced.  Then there's 3 sets of heated grips, crack in the trunk through the hinge holes, the excessive heat problem, LOW oil pressure, blown gaskets, etc...  That's the warranty stuff.

Since then I've spent thousands fixing the chit HD calls a motorcycle.  NONE of what you’ll read below was warranted by HD.  I have an extended service plan with HD until 2014.  It’s $50 before they’ll even considering looking at it…  In many cases HD will randomly change tolerances on fit/form/function of known problems to avoid the responsibility of warranty repair, e.g. crankshaft.

• Crankshaft had .0065" runout discovered during a cam change.  Trued/plugged/welded/balanced.
• Timken bearing conversion to the case.
• New piston rods to get rid of the weak, out of balance rods HD put in.
• New pistons installed at 3500 miles galled badly from slap.  Install new pistons matched to fresh bore.
• Cam plate cam bores were worn bad, at least .010" out of round.  New SE cam plate with bronze bushings.
• Oil pump was galled and worn badly.  Oil pressure (hot) at idle < 5 psi., highway 10 psi.  Installed new Feuling oil pump.

…and the list goes on.  Note once again I did say 8000 miles and these were MY COSTS.  All this just to make the bike reliable and acceptable to ride as intended so I don’t have to worry about it grenading while on a road trip.

Somewhere HD lost its way and if I had to guess I’d say somewhere around 2003-2006 something happened at HD and a new quality policy was released and a “Ship it” mentality was adopted.  HD is concerned with product offerings rather than the quality of their product.  These bikes are assembled with inferior, outsourced components lacking the tolerance and material strength to handle the day to day workload is should be expected to do.  The variability of in the components HD Band-Aids together is appalling.  If Ford, GM, or Chrysler engineered or allowed quality to plummet like Harley they’d have been shut down YEARS ago.  So why do we come back… an image.

I get a bit overzealous with this… I’m with SSB and would say that anything post 2006 that HD has produced to present is basically inferior junk.  Oh they’re beautiful to look at but if I could give a prospective buyer one remaining piece of advice…

Buy used.  Find a clean one and let someone else take the hit for depreciation.  Then plan to spend anywhere from $3000-$4000 to fix the engine making it reliable and a pleasure to ride.  At a minimum figure crank, Timken conversion, pistons, cylinder work.  You’ll now have a bike that you won’t have to worry about taking off for a 1000 mile ride.  
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Re: I Will Buy A New Harley When...
« Reply #94 on: December 02, 2010, 03:51:50 PM »

Can't say I disagree with that.  I figure once I put a Baker 6spd in my SEUC, I'm gonna run the thing until it dies.
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Re: I Will Buy A New Harley When...
« Reply #95 on: December 02, 2010, 05:32:52 PM »

.............Mine goes out of warranty or the rear tire wears out. Which ever comes first !!
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Re: I Will Buy A New Harley When...
« Reply #96 on: December 02, 2010, 11:49:44 PM »

Maybe if thing's changed at the MOCO but very doubtful
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Re: I Will Buy A New Harley When...
« Reply #97 on: December 03, 2010, 02:26:34 PM »

got rio red/black diamond . runs great. only issue was ignition lock broke in locked position. dealer mechanic came my place took apart loaded on trailer back to shop. no charge. great dealer .
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Re: I Will Buy A New Harley When...
« Reply #98 on: December 03, 2010, 04:25:53 PM »

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Me... when would I buy a new Harley?  When they get new management.  When they put emphasis back in the quality of their products and the people who buy them.

That sort of sums it up for a lot of us I'm sure.  :2vrolijk_21: :coolblue:
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Re: I Will Buy A New Harley When...
« Reply #99 on: December 03, 2010, 07:11:06 PM »

I guess I like my dealer AND this is the best touring bike I've ever had is why I'd buy another CVO.  I could step down to a Limited, but then I'd have to put all the good stuff that comes with the CVO.
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Re: I Will Buy A New Harley When...
« Reply #100 on: December 03, 2010, 07:18:35 PM »

I do love my FLHXSE and put 20,000 miles on her the first year. She runs great!!!!!
Buy another one, I think about it and could, but thank God for this site!! My 81 metric runs great too! Not one problem in 29 years.

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Re: I Will Buy A New Harley When...
« Reply #101 on: December 03, 2010, 07:20:53 PM »

Yeah, that's why I have a metric, too.  54K miles on it and only had to replace rear brake pads and a clutch cable.  Great bike.
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Re: I Will Buy A New Harley When...
« Reply #102 on: December 14, 2010, 08:44:37 AM »

Hope I never have to buy another one, but will look for a SEEG if something happens to the Huckleberry.  I don't think much has changed since HD started making these scooters.  They've always had their problems, it just gets worse as they try to make them more modern w/ all the added do-dads.  I luv 'em and hope to be able to ride one for many more moons. But, may not buy a new one anytime soon with all the good used ones at great prices now.  spyder
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Re: I Will Buy A New Harley When...
« Reply #103 on: December 17, 2010, 04:29:54 PM »

I have a 2010 SESG with 20,000 miles and wouldn't hesitate to buy another...this time the Convertible....
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Re: I Will Buy A New Harley When...
« Reply #104 on: December 18, 2010, 07:15:59 AM »

I am sure I will trade the wifes Heritage in another year or so.  It's 22 months old and has 57K on it.  Only one issue so far, a stator went out with 53K on the bike.  Figure she will get a new one around  75 to 80K miles on this one.

Me, when they come out with another Road Glide CVO, Just not ready for an Ultra yet. 
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