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Screamin08

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Just installed new exhaust
« on: December 11, 2010, 10:00:30 PM »

I just installed supertrapp 2 into 1 supermeg. Along with arlen ness big sucker, and a thundermax tuner. One thing I noticed right away is how much smoother the bike idles. I had a question though. Does anybody know the best set up of discs and end cap for this exhaust for the 110's. This engine is stock. Trying to get good performance first, and good sound second. Thanks!!
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Re: Just installed new exhaust
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2010, 11:38:28 PM »

On my 103 I am running and open end cap with 12 discs. If your running a closed cap I would run 20-24 discs.

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Re: Just installed new exhaust
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2010, 07:04:09 AM »

I'm running Fatshots on mine but when going for sound, tech at Supertrapp said more discs more torque, more power and more sound. I added 12 more to each side.
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Re: Just installed new exhaust
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2010, 10:53:06 AM »

It depends where in the RPM range you want the power.  Less discs:  power and torque lower in RPM band.  More discs:  LOUDER and peak HP and torque move up in RPM band, and to a point, more peak HP.  I imagine you're looking for best combo, but just guessing.  Most folks have found this in the 12-18 disc range, with a closed endcap.  Open endcap equals 6-8 discs.

Hope this helps...

Let us know what you figure out.
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Re: Just installed new exhaust
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2010, 11:13:37 AM »

I'm running Fatshots on mine but when going for sound, tech at Supertrapp said more discs more torque, more power and more sound. I added 12 more to each side.

you sure it's not the other way around, less disc for torque,,  :2vrolijk_21:

http://www.supertrapp.com/resource/faqs.asp


Q. How do the diffuser discs work?
SuperTrapp is the original tunable muffler. The SuperTrapp exhaust system allows you to adjust, or “fine tune,” the sound level, powerband and performance. SuperTrapp’s exhaust outlet is formed by a precise gap between a series of individual discs. Adding discs increases the size of the exhaust outlet, increases exhaust flow and exhaust tone while reducing backpressure. More discs move the power band up to give you more top-end power, and lean out the carbureted fuel mixture. Removing discs decreases the size of the exhaust outlet, decreases exhaust tone, and exhaust flow while backpressure is increased. Fewer discs tend to increase low-end torque and richen the carbureted fuel mixture. Diffuser discs allow you to compensate for changes in altitude and air temperature without re-jetting or changing your air intake. And, besides reducing noise, our discs function as United States Forest Service-approved spark arrestors (USFS T-102), making them a safer choice for off-road motorcycles and ATVs.



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Q. How many diffuser discs should I run?
The answer depends on your displacement: disc diameter, power band, and noise level. Fewer discs reduce sound levels, more discs increase sound levels. Fewer discs increase low-end torque and richen the carbureted fuel mixture. More discs increase sound levels, increase top-end power and lean out the carbureted fuel mixture. NOTE: When tuning an exhaust system, start with fewer discs and add. Never start with a lot of discs and subtract. Generally on a stock set up (no engine modifications, and stock carb and air filter), you can start with six to eight discs on dirt bikes and ATVs. On V-twin, metric and cruiser bikes, start with twelve discs. A popular misconception: The more free-flowing an exhaust system is, the more power it will make. This is not true. Some backpressure (2-3 PSI) is necessary to achieve maximum power. This is why it is necessary to use the discs that come with your tunable SuperTrapp exhaust. The number of discs to use will depend on your application, displacement, disc diameter and power band. To assess the performance of any product that affects horsepower and torque, lap times and Dyno- runs are your best indicators. However, since most enthusiasts usually only have a “seat-of-the-pants” Dyno, running condition is the most obvious indicator. Pay attention to the coloration of the discs. Little or no disc coloration indicates a possible lean condition (remove one or two discs). Black or sooty discs are indicative of a rich, or oil burning condition (add one or two discs). Discs that turn a tan or golden color indicate an acceptable balance of fuel mixture and exhaust flow. Reading a spark plug is the quickest way to check if everything in the engine is working as it should. And, it will tell if the SuperTrapp has been tuned properly. A rust-brown spark plug color indicates that the plug is operating smoothly (exhaust is tuned correctly). A whitish look indicates that the burn is too lean (remove one or two discs). A blackish deposit on the plug electrodes (left by oil or fuel traces) indicates that the burn is too rich (add one or two discs).
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Re: Just installed new exhaust
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2010, 07:09:33 PM »

I guess less low end torgue more high end.
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Re: Just installed new exhaust
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2010, 07:13:53 PM »

Hey Guys Thanks for the replies.....Im trying 17 discs right now with closed cap...Have a question though....Is there a good way to tighten the six screws, and can you over tighten them and cause any engine damage by cutting off the exhaust flow???? Im having trouble figuring out if I have tightened them enough...I dont want to over tighten them. Im trying to do like a star pattern. One side will be easy, then the other side will feel tighter and so forth. Any help will be greatly appreciated.  :-\
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Re: Just installed new exhaust
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2010, 07:21:35 PM »

Hey Guys Thanks for the replies.....Im trying 17 discs right now with closed cap...Have a question though....Is there a good way to tighten the six screws, and can you over tighten them and cause any engine damage by cutting off the exhaust flow???? Im having trouble figuring out if I have tightened them enough...I dont want to over tighten them. Im trying to do like a star pattern. One side will be easy, then the other side will feel tighter and so forth. Any help will be greatly appreciated.  :-\

Q. How tight should disc screws be?
Fifteen inch-pounds. Or, two more turns once the screw heads hit the discs. Then check after your first ride and make any adjustment. Note: It is very important that you liberally use an anti-seize lubricant on the screws that hold the discs onto the core.

Make sure you use the Anti-seize
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Re: Just installed new exhaust
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2010, 09:32:51 PM »

Ok, thanks for the advise !!
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