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[Dr.D]

I have never had a bike that was to much for me and I am not easily satisfied, why do I want so much? Why do you if so?

[wolverine]

I'd love to add cams and a good 2-1 exaust. However the Dealers are holding my warranty over me as leverage to spend full retail parts and labor to get it done. Like $2800 cash. So I supose I'll ride the red oven as it was delivered untill the factory warranty expires. If it breaks they can fix it on Harleys dime.

[Dr.D]

Well I guess this subject is not as much a priority as I had thought. With all the engine mods that are done on Harleys I would have expected more posts. Not the first time for me to be mistaken.

I should have asked about your bike as it was stock.

[Envithyx]

Well I guess this subject is not as much a priority as I had thought. With all the engine mods that are done on Harleys I would have expected more posts. Not the first time for me to be mistaken.

I should have asked about your bike as it was stock.

Stock.  Never

Think maybe the thread just needs a bit more time to rack up some postings.  Looks like a few votes have been placed so far.  Earlier, I had seen this and voted, but didn't have much to comment with.  The poll seems to be the basis for the thread.  Then I re-read the 1st posting.

Guess I'll open up with I don't think I could ever have too much.  Limiting factor would be cash flow; and I think more so now than before, everyone is a bit more careful with it at the moment.

Another factor that still breaks down to a cash flow issue is semi-reliable with warranty vs hell bent on doing whatever and ready to pay more if something breaks down.

Personally, I'd love to have at least one more bike.  So I could have the old school bar hopper; the modded out bagger; and a good on gas, reliable as can be, long distance touring bike (like the Black Diamond SG that I keep talking myself out of buying on the floor 5 miles away) with just the basic need to do mods.

That would then free me up to mod the hell out of the springer as well.  Why do I want it, because I can.  What's stopping me?  I don't want to be foolish and spend everything in the bank too fast, already seeing a decline in income this year and so we ebb and flow with the time.

[Wild Card]

I'd love to add cams and a good 2-1 exaust. However the Dealers are holding my warranty over me as leverage to spend full retail parts and labor to get it done. Like $2800 cash. So I supose I'll ride the red oven as it was delivered untill the factory warranty expires. If it breaks they can fix it on Harleys dime.

Put the exhaust on it; it will not void your factory warranty.  Your dealer is misleading you.  See my response to your previous post about this.  

[JCZ]

Well I guess this subject is not as much a priority as I had thought. With all the engine mods that are done on Harleys I would have expected more posts. Not the first time for me to be mistaken.

I should have asked about your bike as it was stock.

I think it may be that performance, what works, what doesn't....what you can do and still have the dealership honor the warranty, etc. has been beat to death here.  A search or two will gleen enough information to cover your question and fill a couple of books.

One big issue is that dealerships are not following the word of law (Magnussen Moss Warranty Act) in denying warranty repairs and they are not consistent on this issue from one dealership to another.  Some dealerships will make the modification and tell you that your warranty will still be good however, if you take your bike to another dealership, they'll tell you that you've voided your warranty with that modification.

[michaelbmenaker]

I just did what I consider the bare minimum:
exhaust (2.0" fullsac baffles, cat removal), ProSERT w/dyno tune. The '10 SESG has a high-flow air filter.
Couldn't be happier. 89HP, 104 ft.lbs. Runs great.

[GregKhougaz]

Isn't that what this site is all about?       

Our Motto:  Too Much is Never Enough!            

[Dr.D]

Stock.  Never

Think maybe the thread just needs a bit more time to rack up some postings.  Looks like a few votes have been placed so far.  Earlier, I had seen this and voted, but didn't have much to comment with.  The poll seems to be the basis for the thread.  Then I re-read the 1st posting.

Guess I'll open up with I don't think I could ever have too much.  Limiting factor would be cash flow; and I think more so now than before, everyone is a bit more careful with it at the moment.

Another factor that still breaks down to a cash flow issue is semi-reliable with warranty vs hell bent on doing whatever and ready to pay more if something breaks down.

Personally, I'd love to have at least one more bike.  So I could have the old school bar hopper; the modded out bagger; and a good on gas, reliable as can be, long distance touring bike (like the Black Diamond SG that I keep talking myself out of buying on the floor 5 miles away) with just the basic need to do mods.

That would then free me up to mod the hell out of the springer as well.  Why do I want it, because I can.  What's stopping me?  I don't want to be foolish and spend everything in the bank too fast, already seeing a decline in income this year and so we ebb and flow with the time.

Well crap that's what I was going to say.

Three bikes would be ideal. Ultra modified demon soft tail or dyna, a road king with a 120r minumum and the SERG killed cat, easy pipes, high flow filter and tuner. Need more $!

The reason behind the thread is I have been questioned by the wife and a few guys about why I need so much power. I really have a hard time putting into words so I'd like others like me try to explain what I can't.

Is it something innately male that cries out for power, risk and  danger? Stock bikes go the speed limit but why then am I not satisfied.

I saw one voter saying his bike was overpowered and I'd like to hear the rational.

[Wild Card]

I saw one voter saying his bike was overpowered and I'd like to hear the rational.

Well, I wouldn't say "overpowered", but I would say I'm pleased with it.  IMO, Harleys are cruisers.  I never saw them as dragbikes nor do I think they should be - others may disagree.  If that were what I wanted, I would go with a bike that gave me that - a Hayabusa, perhaps. 

Try all you can, it's gonna be hard to have both the best looking bike and the fastest one.  So, choose a side, I say! 

...then try to make yours faster.   

[Envithyx]

Well crap that's what I was going to say.

Three bikes would be ideal. Ultra modified demon soft tail or dyna, a road king with a 120r minumum and the SERG killed cat, easy pipes, high flow filter and tuner. Need more $!

The reason behind the thread is I have been questioned by the wife and a few guys about why I need so much power. I really have a hard time putting into words so I'd like others like me try to explain what I can't.

Is it something innately male that cries out for power, risk and  danger? Stock bikes go the speed limit but why then am I not satisfied.

I saw one voter saying his bike was overpowered and I'd like to hear the rational.

Personally, I'd rather have an bike with power that I underutilize, than to be caught at a moment where I don't have enough.  Maybe that's what drives my desire.  However, I also realize that to push the limits comes with its own set of drawback.  It's all about finding the balance that your comfortable with.  As for buying a Hayabusa as mentioned above, I want one of those too.  However, I won't get one till I know I won't just go out and just kill myself on it.

I decided to push the stock motor on my Limited for a few reasons.  One it's not up to par with my lighter 110 based Springer.  The other, the stock cams really suck the life out of it and it opens up way to high on the RPM range.  By the time I'm ready to shift, the sucker takes off like I hit a NOS button or something.

So, I decided to change the cams, but had to think about the implications to the warranty - not the rest of the bike per se, but the actual part I was replacing.  Turns out my extended warranty will cover all HD parts, so that made my decision easier, but narrowed my choices.  Then after researching the cams, decided to go with the SE259E based on data I gathered and riding up against a bike that already had them installed.

Worked for me, but there was a caveate.  In order to really make the SE259E work well, I had to bump the compression.  So again, options, warranty considerations, and parts that work together narrowed my choice down to the SE Stage III kit.  All of the new parts covered by extended warranty, the rest of the bike covered by both initial and extended warranty.

Even if it isn't the best configuration I could go with, it will be by far better than the stock motor/cam set, and hopefully not exceed the stock 110 in my springer too badly.  Then I'll want to upgrade it. 

Also, I just saw a brand new RG that had a 120R dropped in, with all the other goodies added like new custom tank, seat, etc.  Very very nice!  Cost the new owner $21k over the price of the bike to get everything done.  Guess he still got a lot of extra cash flow.

[Dr.D]

I put the 269e cams and the hc pistons in the 110 Fatbob and like it. Is it to powerful no way.

I heard about one guy that brought back a stock CVO because it almost got away from him. Give me a break man twist the right a little less.

[JCZ]

Yea, but then some people don't belong on any motorcycle.

Then again......some of us get hurt on motorcycles, wave runners, skiing black diamonds, mountain biking, etc. etc. and get back up and do it all over again.   Been accused of being an adrenaline junky.....seems like I always have to squeeze just a bit more out of it than the next person.  At 60, I still feel that way.....I just don't act on it quite as much.

[Dr.D]

I'm trying to compensate for my age with immaturity.

I wonder if this poll was taken in a female only population if the results would differ? I bet they would be significantly different. Men are not women.

[Half_Crazy]

Ya know, people always say to me that performance isn't important and "It's a cruiser, dude" or some such crap. I always say the same thing.

I have never ridden a cruiser/bagger type bike and thought to myself "Gee, if only this thing made 20 less horsepower, I'd like it a lot better".

My Motto: If a lot is good and more is better, too much is PERFECT.