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[spada84]

It also needs to excite me. Not just when I'm lookin' at it... but when I'm RIDING IT. It needs to move with authority, it needs to handle, and it needs to stop as well as it goes. The thought of an 800+ pound, 65 horsepower motorcycle excites me about as much as watching paint dry.

So, why are you even ON this forum?   

[Half_Crazy]

As long as I'm riding then I'm happy. Probably why I'm such a bag of marbles lately.

Oh yeah... The bike was gone for 7 months. Felt like a caged animal.

[SBB]

So, why are you even ON this forum?   

Spada
Some people complain because that's all they know to do.
It's the internet, they think people actually care.
They don't understand that everyone is laughing.
Maybe it's just compensation.

 

[Half_Crazy]

So, why are you even ON this forum?   

I'll be honest, most of the people who should be my peers don't 'get me'. They can't understand why anyone would want an 11 second cruiser/bagger. "Cruisers are for cruising". Well, I guess I didn't get the memo that cruiser/bagger bikes have to be slow and cumbersome.

I started reading the CVO forums and the V-Twin forums... low and behold I see guys who sold their engines on ebay and installed R&R 131", S&S 124", or SE 120R motors. I thought maybe I had actually found people who ARE my peers.  A guy who buys a CVO and then drops another 9 grand into making it exciting to ride... surely that guy will understand my addiction...

In other words, conversing with people who share my passion for motorcycles appeals to me. If I'm not welcome here, just say so.

[Half_Crazy]

Some people complain because that's all they know to do.
It's the internet, they think people actually care.
They don't understand that everyone is laughing.
Maybe it's just compensation. 

What I said was not a slam against people who ride Goldwings or Ultras or 6 cylinder BMWs, I merely stated that full blown tourers don't blow my skirt up and for the riding I do I don't want/need one. From my perspective (skewd for sure) the Goldwing feels slow and runs out of ground clearance pretty early... the Ultra even more so.

The CVO that would pique my interest would be the Convertible. Like having 2 or 3 bikes... versatile, lighter, sportier, less gadgets. Simply my personal opinion/preference and says nothing about yours. While you might not care what my preferences are, it's hard to understand why you would take offense or see them as complaining, compensating, or laughable. 

[SBB]

While you might not care what my preferences are, it's hard to understand why you would take offense or see them as complaining, compensating, or laughable. 

For whatever reason you choose or justify, you consistently slam Harley's on this site. (maybe you do BMW's and Goldwings also but I don't care about them)
That is your right.
For some reason you are under the impression that because you have a fast victory that people really care and or want to hear about it.
Most of the time I ignore your post but the earlier one,

The thought of an 800+ pound, 65 horsepower motorcycle excites me about as much as watching paint dry.

shows to me how unaware you are about a modern Harley.
Again, a lack of knowledge is also your right. But when you come on a Harley site and exhibit that lack of knowledge I find it somewhat funny.
And that is my right.

SBB

[Twolanerider]

Trying to remember the old commercial from, maybe, the 1960s.  Something like "You meet the nicest people when talking about a Honda."    

[Robmay]

Well, didn't take too long once again to get of track....  

[Robmay]

At 1:17 this video says it has a 5 speed tranny WITH over drive. Would that be like a 6 speed?

[Half_Crazy]

For whatever reason you choose or justify, you consistently slam Harley's on this site

I slammed Harleys?

shows to me how unaware you are about a modern Harley

I may be lots of things, but unaware isn't one of them.

From here:
http://www.motorcycle.com/shoot-outs/2011-kawasaki-vulcan-1700-vaquero-vs-2011-harleydavidson-road-glide-custom-90376.html




That's a 2011 103" PowerPak... Would that be considered a modern Harley?

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[Half_Crazy]

I re-read this whole thread and these are NOT quotes from me:

"If a person is buying a touring bike strictly based on function over form, and reliability, HD would probably not be in the running..... You can certainly get a lot more bike for the buck with a Wing or BMW, from a practical point of view, especially when you compare them to a CVO touring bike." 

"The GW is a different ride... feels like a sport bike compared to the SEUC.  The power is unbelievable.  It is a bigger bike than the SEUC, so it does ride better.  There is more seat room, which is good on a long trip"

"it is good to have a second bike to ride while the SEUC is in the shop"

"Reliability and function trumps "style" every time in my book, and for those who can only swing having one bike it's a dilemma. Go with the proven reliability, power, handling, and comfort of the Honda "appliance", or take your chances with the stylish but not so reliable Harley?.... All I know is, if I were planning to ride across a desolate desert without a fully equipped chase truck, I'd be much more confident doing it on a Honda than a Harley"


But... I slammed Harleys? Where?

[Midnight Rider]

HC...I've only been back on the site since late January of this year.  I've read most of your posts since that time, I think.  To me, what you've said is not what I would consider slamming anything.  Your reasons for riding the brand and style of motorcycle you ride are legitimate reasons for you, and I find no fault with them whatsoever.  Victory is a good motorcycle.  So is Honda, Star, BMW, Kawasaki, etc, etc, etc.  Harley's are good motorcycles too, for what they are. They are not the best at everything, and neither are the others.  You spend your money on what you want/like, I do the same, and others may choose something else.  It's all good, because they're all two wheels and a lot of fun.  Some are better at certain things than others...that is true about almost everything in this world, and IMO, that is a very good thing.  It's always good to get another perspective on whatever, unless you're closed minded.  If you were on here just to stir up chit, there are mechanisms in place to have you removed.  I have seen no evidence of that, from my perspective.  It would be a boring assed world if everyone saw everything the same way, or were forced to adopt the viewpoints of whoever thinks they have the best ones.  None of us are here to win a personality contest, so we have to tolerate other opinions.  Tolerance is a good thing too...

[Half_Crazy]

HC...I've only been back on the site since late January of this year.  I've read most of your posts since that time, I think.  To me, what you've said is not what I would consider slamming anything.  Your reasons for riding the brand and style of motorcycle you ride are legitimate reasons for you, and I find no fault with them whatsoever.

It's all good, because they're all two wheels and a lot of fun.  Some are better at certain things than others...that is true about almost everything in this world, and IMO, that is a very good thing.

My goal has never been to stir up trouble. There's some good conversation in here and I'd like to get in on it. No more, no less.

Lots of passion in me when it comes to motorcycles, but not a lot of loyalty to any particular manufacturer. We all kind of choose the bike closest to our own mental picture of the perfect machine for us and what we plan to use it for... with an eye toward the potential to make it our perfect machine. After shopping/comparing/test riding for 2 years, I decided the Kingpin was the right bike for me at this time, so I bought it. If Honda had built the Kingpin I'd be on a Honda. If Harley had built the Kingpin I'd be on a Harley. I bought the bike, not the brand.

As far a Victory goes, they're doing a pretty good job. They do try to listen to their customers, but they screw some stuff up too. There's things about this bike I would have done differently had I built it, but all in all, a nice package for what I do on it. It taught me a hard-learned lesson; that there's no replacement for cubic dollars!

 

[tazmun]

HC...I've only been back on the site since late January of this year.  I've read most of your posts since that time, I think.  To me, what you've said is not what I would consider slamming anything.  Your reasons for riding the brand and style of motorcycle you ride are legitimate reasons for you, and I find no fault with them whatsoever.  Victory is a good motorcycle.  So is Honda, Star, BMW, Kawasaki, etc, etc, etc.  Harley's are good motorcycles too, for what they are. They are not the best at everything, and neither are the others.  You spend your money on what you want/like, I do the same, and others may choose something else.  It's all good, because they're all two wheels and a lot of fun.  Some are better at certain things than others...that is true about almost everything in this world, and IMO, that is a very good thing.  It's always good to get another perspective on whatever, unless you're closed minded.  If you were on here just to stir up chit, there are mechanisms in place to have you removed.  I have seen no evidence of that, from my perspective.  It would be a boring assed world if everyone saw everything the same way, or were forced to adopt the viewpoints of whoever thinks they have the best ones.  None of us are here to win a personality contest, so we have to tolerate other opinions.  Tolerance is a good thing too...

Spoken like a true motorcyclist!

[DOOFUS]

Nicely said.

HC...I've only been back on the site since late January of this year.  I've read most of your posts since that time, I think.  To me, what you've said is not what I would consider slamming anything.  Your reasons for riding the brand and style of motorcycle you ride are legitimate reasons for you, and I find no fault with them whatsoever.  Victory is a good motorcycle.  So is Honda, Star, BMW, Kawasaki, etc, etc, etc.  Harley's are good motorcycles too, for what they are. They are not the best at everything, and neither are the others.  You spend your money on what you want/like, I do the same, and others may choose something else.  It's all good, because they're all two wheels and a lot of fun.  Some are better at certain things than others...that is true about almost everything in this world, and IMO, that is a very good thing.  It's always good to get another perspective on whatever, unless you're closed minded.  If you were on here just to stir up chit, there are mechanisms in place to have you removed.  I have seen no evidence of that, from my perspective.  It would be a boring assed world if everyone saw everything the same way, or were forced to adopt the viewpoints of whoever thinks they have the best ones.  None of us are here to win a personality contest, so we have to tolerate other opinions.  Tolerance is a good thing too...