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Re: Disappointing Rineharts
« Reply #45 on: July 13, 2006, 10:12:38 AM »

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I have the V&H True Duals with V&H Ovals.  Great sound and performance.  I'd recommend you consider them.  I thought some of the SE slip-ons are going to be unavailable.  There are some posts on this site that talk about this subject.

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Re: Disappointing Rineharts
« Reply #46 on: July 22, 2006, 01:19:39 PM »

I pulled mine off my '05 Ultra two weeks back and put a set of Vance & Hines true dual ovals.

After the first header pipe's weld broke, I thought it was fixed with the replacement.  While I was on a cross country trip, it happened again!! >:(

I had the V&H's put on in Utah so I wouldn't have any issues on the return trip to PA.  

I'm done with them.  Love the performance and power, but they suck in design as far as workmanship.  Both times, it wasn't the weld that broke, it was the thin pipe around the weld.  Just my opinion.
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Re: Disappointing Rineharts
« Reply #47 on: August 04, 2006, 10:41:41 PM »

Got my new Rineharts today and the right side muffler has a dime-sized dent in it.  E-mail has already been sent to Karen (thanks for the e-mail addy, 'Dood).  Also, they're still packaging the black powdercoated header support bracket in with the heat shield and muffler clamps. [smiley=confused5.gif]  Mine has a several slight scratces on one side and another larger scratch on the other side, but I'm going to leave it for now and just chome it this winter.  Not sure why they didn't make a change to their packaging practices on this part yet. [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

A couple of weeks ago I received my Feuling lifters and oil pump.  Two of the lifters were incorrectly packaged which resulted in damage to the machined surfaces on both of those lifters, so they are going back tomorrow to be exchanged.  The 575 cams, gear drive, bearings, pushrods and oil pump bypass shim are on their way from Zipper's.  If any of that stuff arrives damaged, I am going to get it replaced and then have a fire sale on everything I've bought.  At that point, I will take a hint that I'm not supposed to be doing this. :-/

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Re: Disappointing Rineharts
« Reply #48 on: August 05, 2006, 06:16:45 AM »

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Got my new Rineharts today and the right side muffler has a dime-sized dent in it.  E-mail has already been sent to Karen (thanks for the e-mail addy, 'Dood).  Also, they're still packaging the black powdercoated header support bracket in with the heat shield and muffler clamps. [smiley=confused5.gif]  Mine has a several slight scratces on one side and another larger scratch on the other side, but I'm going to leave it for now and just chome it this winter.  Not sure why they didn't make a change to their packaging practices on this part yet. [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

A couple of weeks ago I received my Feuling lifters and oil pump.  Two of the lifters were incorrectly packaged which resulted in damage to the machined surfaces on both of those lifters, so they are going back tomorrow to be exchanged.  The 575 cams, gear drive, bearings, pushrods and oil pump bypass shim are on their way from Zipper's.  If any of that stuff arrives damaged, I am going to get it replaced and then have a fire sale on everything I've bought.  At that point, I will take a hint that I'm not supposed to be doing this. :-/

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Re: Disappointing Rineharts
« Reply #49 on: August 05, 2006, 04:39:04 PM »

In the last 3 years of dealing with Karen at BuB through models / revisions 1,2,3 of the rear elbow and the joint just below the cam cover (bad weld once), I have never come away feeling like she didnt do what she could for me or go above and beyond to help me out.   If your dealing with her please tell her I said hello and I am very confident you will be taken care of.  

Time is the only factor I ever had an issue with and its because I generally want things NOW.  
All in all I have always been happy with the service.

BTW there is a 2 1/2 baffle a 2 1/4 baffle (made stock or standard after the first year) and now they also offer a 2" quieter baffle.   Personally from my own experience the 2 1/4 works great for the 95's and 103's.  When I installed the 2 1/2 I saw little advantage and it was also much louder, the only performance difference I saw was on the very top end wtih the 124 so I went back and got a lttle more mid range witht he 2 1/4's.   I have a set of 2 1/2" baffles in the garage.

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Re: Disappointing Rineharts
« Reply #50 on: August 06, 2006, 01:24:04 AM »

I tried the rineharts. Too damn loud and squeeked on certain pavement types like an old VW beetle. Tried the 2 1/4 torque baffles. Too damn loud. Tried the 2 1/4 baffles wrapped. Too damn loud. Loud, and the sound was not a deep pleasing tone either.
  Pulled away from a friend of mines house one night and got on it a bit. He said it was the loudest damn bike he had ever heard.
  I've got a buddy who has them on his SEEG. He pulled away from a little restaurant where a few of us were eating one morning and got on it hard and everybody in the restaurant stopped in the middle of their conversations and stared down the road at him, and not in a good way.
  I overheard more than a few negative comments concerning the noise.
  I hate the way the left header pipe does not fit into the recess in the side cover like the stock pipes. It sticks out and down almost an inch and I don't see any way that you would ever be able to pull the primary cover without removing the rear pipe.
  I changed to Vance and Hines true dual headers. These fit on the left side like they are supposed to.
  I added a set of supertrapp 3" IDS slip ons and some screamin' eagle and caps and then dialed in the sound just where I wanted it.
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Re: Disappointing Rineharts
« Reply #51 on: August 06, 2006, 06:37:08 AM »

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I tried the rineharts. Too damn loud and squeeked on certain pavement types like an old VW beetle. Tried the 2 1/4 torque baffles. Too damn loud. Tried the 2 1/4 baffles wrapped. Too damn loud. Loud, and the sound was not a deep pleasing tone either.
  Pulled away from a friend of mines house one night and got on it a bit. He said it was the loudest damn bike he had ever heard.
  I've got a buddy who has them on his SEEG. He pulled away from a little restaurant where a few of us were eating one morning and got on it hard and everybody in the restaurant stopped in the middle of their conversations and stared down the road at him, and not in a good way.
  I overheard more than a few negative comments concerning the noise.
  I hate the way the left header pipe does not fit into the recess in the side cover like the stock pipes. It sticks out and down almost an inch and I don't see any way that you would ever be able to pull the primary cover without removing the rear pipe.
  I changed to Vance and Hines true dual headers. These fit on the left side like they are supposed to.
  I added a set of supertrapp 3" IDS slip ons and some screamin' eagle and caps and then dialed in the sound just where I wanted it.

All sounds like my experience MObe.  The biggest problem with that left side header not fitting the recess isn't pulling the primary - you don't do that too often - it's that it runs right next to the passenger footrest. My wife gets melted boot on it every single time we are out on the bike, and it sure isn't easy to clean it off......  Because it's so far forward too, I melted a big hole in my waterproof trousers on it, at the back of the leg, behind the asbestos patch.

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Re: Disappointing Rineharts
« Reply #52 on: August 18, 2006, 06:17:41 PM »

Here's what happens with the old mounting setup:


I had them "fixed" once at a dealer up in Miramiche, Canada.  The service guy was great and welded the tab back on.

During my trip last month, the weld held, but the pipe broke in front of the weld!!
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Re: Disappointing Rineharts
« Reply #53 on: August 18, 2006, 06:33:45 PM »

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Here's what happens with the old mounting setup:........

I had them "fixed" once at a dealer up in Miramiche, Canada.  The service guy was great and welded the tab back on.

During my trip last month, the weld held, but the pipe broke in front of the weld!!
Have you tried contacting BUB to get them replaced. I understand they are real good to work w/on warranty issues.

Try using this contact info:
Karen McRobbie (karen@bubent.com)
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Re: Disappointing Rineharts
« Reply #54 on: August 18, 2006, 06:36:02 PM »

Firedood,

Thanks, I did get a replacement.  They were great about it.

I just came across the picture and thought I'd share it.
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Re: Disappointing Rineharts
« Reply #55 on: August 18, 2006, 06:54:15 PM »

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Firedood,

Thanks, I did get a replacement.  They were great about it.

I just came across the picture and thought I'd share it.
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Re: Disappointing Rineharts
« Reply #56 on: August 19, 2006, 12:16:47 PM »

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. . . I hate the way the left header pipe does not fit into the recess in the side cover like the stock pipes. It sticks out and down almost an inch and I don't see any way that you would ever be able to pull the primary cover without removing the rear pipe.

I never really liked that part, either, but it appears they've made a change to the latest version (see bend):

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Re: Disappointing Rineharts
« Reply #57 on: August 19, 2006, 03:11:55 PM »

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I never really liked that part, either, but it appears they've made a change to the latest version (see bend):
Brian,
Does this mean we are going to have some new parts to look at on your scooter at MV?

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Re: Disappointing Rineharts
« Reply #58 on: August 19, 2006, 07:38:48 PM »


That's the plan as of now, Gary.  I should get the replacement Feuling lifters sometime this week and hopefully these won't be damaged.  On the Rineharts, I sent an e-mail to Karen right after I got the pipes but have never heard from her about the dent in the right-side one.  In the menatime, I contacted Direct Parts where I got the pipes from and explained my dilemma to them.  According to an e-mail I got back from a fella name Sam there, Karen said I should go ahead and install the dented muff if it doesn't happen that I get a replacement in time and that they'd still warranty it anyway.  I'm a bit nervous about that, though, so I'm going to call the number you posted above and ask to speak with her myself on Monday.  If I can get the lifters and pipes squared away, I'll be good to go on the parts.

Then, JR has been working overtime for me to get a good labor quote out of Bumpus' in Memphis to do the install.  We're pretty much there, so the tentative plan is to drop the bike on September 23 then turn around two weeks later and pick it up "on my way" (as much as Memphis is "on my way" at least) to Maggie Valley.

I'm still a little upset that the lifters and pipes came damaged. >:(  I hope everything comes together.  I think it'll be a close call if it does. [smiley=nervous.gif]  Plan B will be to drop it at Bumpus' on the way home from MV and then return again later to get it, but it would sure be nice to have it done for the event, if possible.

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Re: Disappointing Rineharts
« Reply #59 on: August 19, 2006, 08:14:14 PM »

Kewl. Hope everything works out, and you get this all done before MV.

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