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New Oil Cooler
« on: September 19, 2011, 06:18:34 PM »

Last week I had a new oil cooler install for a tech article for American Iron Magazine. The cooler was from Oil Bud which is basically heat sink plate/ heat exchanger that mounts under the motor between the frame rails. Installation needed more than one person at times but was fairly straight forward. We did a bunch of runs/tests to get temps for the heads and oil before the installation with the stock oil cooler. After the install we redid the runs and checked the temps - each run showed about 35F degree drop on the oil temps and the heads ran almost as cool.

Since it is a heat sink, the cooler works also at idle with no air flow. On the initial set of tests, at idle the rear head would cut out after about 3 minutes, with the new cooler it took 11 minutes before the rear shut down. As an extra test, we ran the Lenale fan ihave installed with the new cooler at idle and it took almost 15 minutes before the rear shut down. With everyone looking for ways to get their bike engines to run cooler, I was pretty impressed with this addition to my bike. Glad I did it as a tech article, because buying this cooler will set you back about $650, but if heat really bothers you it might be worth the cost. Not sure what month the article will be posted in, but I would guess in the next 2-3months (average time from writing to pulication).
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Re: New Oil Cooler
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2011, 09:45:03 PM »

Very interesting! Thanks for sharing.
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Re: New Oil Cooler
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2011, 10:15:58 PM »

Is that installed as an addition or a replacement for the stock oil cooler?
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Re: New Oil Cooler
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2011, 07:27:41 AM »

Its a replacement, the stock cooler is removed. I imagine you could work it to have both in series but I don't know if you would gain more cooling. Seeing the numbers from the test leads me to believe that the stock cooler doesn't do a lot, probably due to its location.
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Re: New Oil Cooler
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2011, 08:49:31 AM »

GOMO

The Oil Bud has been on my watch list for about two years. Your review is the first that actualy did a before/aft evulation that I've been waiting for. I run a 131 inch (when it's running  >:( ) and it likes to run at 275-280 on average day, and close to 300 on a hot day. Based on your results it looks like the Oil Bud will help me..

Thanks for your review, The Oil Bud is on my list... :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: New Oil Cooler
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2011, 01:39:13 PM »

Once I find out what issue the write up will be in, I will post it
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Re: New Oil Cooler
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2011, 05:48:11 AM »

Last week I had a new oil cooler install for a tech article for American Iron Magazine. The cooler was from Oil Bud which is basically heat sink plate/ heat exchanger that mounts under the motor between the frame rails. Installation needed more than one person at times but was fairly straight forward. We did a bunch of runs/tests to get temps for the heads and oil before the installation with the stock oil cooler. After the install we redid the runs and checked the temps - each run showed about 35F degree drop on the oil temps and the heads ran almost as cool.

Since it is a heat sink, the cooler works also at idle with no air flow. On the initial set of tests, at idle the rear head would cut out after about 3 minutes, with the new cooler it took 11 minutes before the rear shut down. As an extra test, we ran the Lenale fan ihave installed with the new cooler at idle and it took almost 15 minutes before the rear shut down. With everyone looking for ways to get their bike engines to run cooler, I was pretty impressed with this addition to my bike. Glad I did it as a tech article, because buying this cooler will set you back about $650, but if heat really bothers you it might be worth the cost. Not sure what month the article will be posted in, but I would guess in the next 2-3months (average time from writing to pulication).

HOW do I get on THAT list?????
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Re: New Oil Cooler
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2011, 09:36:49 AM »

How does it effect your oil presure?
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Re: New Oil Cooler
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2011, 04:44:21 PM »

At what part of the installation did you need another set of hands?  I'm probably going to get one of these before next summer and I want to install it myself if I can.
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Re: New Oil Cooler
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2011, 11:10:06 AM »

The concern I have for those things is damage from road debris. They are mighty exposed down there, and I would certainly be avoiding speed bumps, curbs, and gravel roads like the plague. Somehow on my Deuce, I was always noticing new scraps and gouges in the lower frame wraps on my SED and eventually the left side broke. I avoid all of the areas mentioned above and this still happened and I have no clue how. Only takes one well placed stone to cause a catestrophic leak down there.
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Re: New Oil Cooler
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2011, 11:13:20 AM »

The concern I have for those things is damage from road debris. They are mighty exposed down there, and I would certainly be avoiding speed bumps, curbs, and gravel roads like the plague. Somehow on my Deuce, I was always noticing new scraps and gouges in the lower frame wraps on my SED and eventually the left side broke. I avoid all of the areas mentioned above and this still happened and I have no clue how. Only takes one well placed stone to cause a catestrophic leak down there.

This is what has always concerned me about this design.  My frame rails and center stand take a beating.
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Re: New Oil Cooler
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2011, 03:15:02 PM »

Hey Magloo,

Do you have the oil bud?  Their site mentions/shows it being blasted with a shotgun and no leaks.

Did you run over some old lady with titanium hips and terminator dentures at the crosswalk with her stainless steel walker?

My only concern is that the new ones for my model seem to have less surface area than the older ones since they had to break it up into 3 separate areas instead of 2 due to the space it has to fit in under the bike.
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Re: New Oil Cooler
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2011, 06:06:53 PM »


Did you run over some old lady with titanium hips and terminator dentures at the crosswalk with her stainless steel walker?


Oh chit, did you know her?     :pineapple:

Seriously, I haven't dug into them very much, after just looking at a few articles in the rags. I dismissed it pretty quickly due to the concerns mentioned above.  I very well could be considerably off-base with that line of thinking, and would probably investigate it more if I lived in a hotter area. However, the stock cooler works well for me as it normally runs no hotter than 230-ish. Even stuck in stop and go in Sturgis, the highest I ever saw was about 260-265, which is plenty cool.  I did just rebuild the stocker, and keep it very clean.  For you turkey's down south, it very well might be worth checking into.
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Re: New Oil Cooler
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2011, 06:45:31 PM »

gobble gobble!  Gettin' me one next spring.
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Re: New Oil Cooler
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2011, 03:39:43 PM »

gobble gobble!  Gettin' me one next spring.

Take lots of pics of the install and post 'em up!  Another thing you might want to think of is opening the exhaust and richening things up, which will help drop some of the temps. I can't recall if you bike was totally stock or not, but these things run damn hot stock. That alone can pay big dividends, not only in performance but in lowering the temps as well.
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