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[Midnight Rider]

Hello   I need someone in these area Jackson mississippi to but on and tune a TTS tuner ,  i need a place to take it to get it tuned for i cannt do it, i will buy the TTS if i can get in installed and tuned. I am run Fullsac And V&H headers with a V&H throttlepack and not happy with tune , back firing, lack throttle, slow acceleration when running tho gears. i need a tuner around this area or 200 miles that can inst my TTS.  Thanks for eny Help??

I would suggest you call Steve at Fullsac and talk to him about purchasing the TTS and see if he has a map for that setup that you can upload yourself...if you have a laptop computer.  He may also know of someone in your area that can help you out.  The closest TTS dealer to you that's listed on the TTS website is going to be Rod's Performance in Hanceville, Alabama.

Have you contactd V&H and asked them for some settings on the TP that will get you closer to better performance?

[patrikr]

Matt,

Please lemme know the outcome with the torque cones.  Also, which ones did you order?

I was mailing with Jamie over at Fuel Moto about their 2-1-2 head pipes and CFR slipons and asked about torque cones. His comment was that they didn't recommend them, they were too restrictive. Unfortunately they hadn't done any work on CFRs with the improved baffles but I intend to order the head pipes anyway and hope to find a good tuner in SoCal who can help me get it tuned right.

[11UltraSE6]

Removed x-pipe and installed torque cones. They sit just inside the header. Re-installed x-pipe. Road bike for about an hour with no popping on decel after significant throottle inputs. Spent $17.50 on ebay plus 5-6 beers while doing the work.

Removed throttle pack by the way and TTS did take care of throttle lag.

[HOGMIKE]

Removed x-pipe and installed torque cones. They sit just inside the header. Re-installed x-pipe. Road bike for about an hour with no popping on decel after significant throottle inputs. Spent $17.50 on ebay plus 5-6 beers while doing the work.

Removed throttle pack by the way and TTS did take care of throttle lag.

Was this done BEFORE OR AFTER you r&r the x-pipe and install the cones?
 

[CVOmedic]

Finally got to hear some CFRs in person....I AM SOLD!!!!!

No sound clip, video, or anything I have seen to date does justice to these pipes.  I was at the dealership a few days ago and while we were standing around outside this guys fires his bike up from about 20 yards away.  I swung my head around so fast I nearly broke my neck!  DAMM these bad boys were RUMBLING!  After what I had read about the CFRs I thought immediately these had to be them.  Sure enough, we walked over and I was right.  These things sounded AWESOME!  Deep, I MEAN DEEEEEEP rumble!  No sharp cracks with twisting the throttle or on riding away.

As far as loudness, they are for sure not your grandma's pipes, but I found them far from obnoxious.  Like someone else said, it may be due to how low the pitch is, but even when he got on it a little bit, I still did not think they were plug your ears loud.

With that said, I am finding a vendor STAT and ordering these ASAP.

On a side note, I have changed my mind about the tuner.  I have decided to take the leap and try out the EMS from RevPerformance.  Given the fact that I know nothing about motors and tuning, this thing looks to be perfect for me.  From the research I have done, there has been a very positive reception for this device.  Also, the price seems very reasonable from our on site vendors.

Will keep everyone posted on my progress and outcomes!

[BUBBLEHEAD]

If you go with the EMS from REV  you will have to buy a 2010 ecm and have it married to your bike before you send it to them. They have not figured out how to work with the 11 or 12 ecms as of yet. I emailed them last month and was told this was what had to be done.

Seems funny that with such great reviews on the ems that they haven't gotten it to work with the new bikes. Looks like they would be losing alot of business, as having to buy a 2010 ecm raises the price of there product considerably.

[CVOmedic]

@Bubblehead

UGGGHHH....are you kidding me?  I haven't contacted them yet, but from the posts I have read, I thought for sure they had figured out the '11s and '12s by now.  I read posts dated early to mid-last year and the guys were talking about how it would only be a few more weeks before they cracked the 11s!  Man, that really blows as I thought I had FINALLY made a decision on a tuner!

[BUBBLEHEAD]

Agree with your frustration. I still think it's a great choice, just have to evaluate if it's worth an extra $400 bucks or so. Personally I think the TTS is the best choice we have price vs performance at this time. Rev really needs to get there act together and solve this issue. I would think they would sell all of the units they could make if it worked with the newer bikes ecm.

[glens]

Just wait a short while and you'll have a chance for even greater option paralysis.  The V-Twin Expo is going on this weekend in Cinci and there's supposed to be some exciting new stuff in terms of ECM management being shown there.

[CVOmedic]

JUST what I need...MORE OPTIONS!  LOL

Just emailed RP...we'll see if anything has changed from last month

[CVOmedic]

Just spoke with Andrew over at RevPerformance.  Confirmed that there is no EMS product for the '12s.  Also, he said that it looked like there wouldn't be one either.

So its back to the TTS for me!  Hope you guys are ready to be bombarded with tuning questions!

[AZMike]

After months of reading different threads and articles and talking to a couple HD service shops, I finally pulled the plug and installed a complete new exhaust including the CFR's.
Since I live in Phoenix I drove out to the CFR office and actually spoke to Carey Faas for about 30 minutes while they put my pipes together. I told him that many of the dealers in the area are saying that his pipes are extremely difficult to tune because they are so open and he pretty much said that if someone knows what they are doing, it shouldn't be a problem.
Since I also wanted to get rid of the stock head pipe with the CAT, he recommended I go to TRASK Performance in Phoenix to install everything and dyno tune the bike so that's what I did.
Trask put on an S&S head pipe, which has a very subtle looking crossover compared to the V&H or Fullsac and they put on the Harley Super Tuner then dyno tuned everything.
The difference in performance is incredible. No popping on decel and the low sound of the CFR's really turns heads. I was riding next to a buddy who has a 2011 SESG with the stock head pipe and CFR's and mine is definitely louder but still sounds great. I can already tell that the heat issue on my right leg from the CAT is totally gone.
So, if you can find someone who can tune those pipes correctly I definitely would recommend them.

[BUBBLEHEAD]

AZMike   how about a pic or two

[steve-o]

Saw a Jackpot (Fuel Moto) Stainless steel ,cat-less headpipe today. Has 4 bungs for easier broad band o2 sensor monitoring during dyno tuning. Appears to be just like Fullsac x pipe except stainless. Looked real good on the bike ,almost like chrome. Available ceramic coated or not. Still gonna use Fullsac 2" baffles on new bike,but debating on headpipe. I know Steve's Fullsac headpipe is great, but stainless sure looks like CHROME.....you folks sound off with your opinions. THANKS

[glens]

My opinion is that when choosing between the two myself, I went with the Fullsac because it has a "collector" configuration I like the looks of better.  The way the crossunder pipe is fed and the crossunder itself means there's no way the two mufflers are ever going to flow the same.  With the Fullsac setup I don't see that as being much of an impediment to the two pipes before the interconnect flowing the same as each other.  With the Jackpot assembly, where the two pipes look to merely blast through each other at an angle, the flow from the rear cylinder headpipe is going to have to make a harder turn to get out the right side muffler, like it'll have to do because it's not going to all want to go to the left side because of the crossunder/feed.  See what I'm trying to say?

Apart from the attractiveness of the stainless finish (if the pipe's uncoated) I like the Jackpot a little better for the more sure-looking separation of the two O2 sensors.  Though I've not noticed anything wrong with the way the Fullsac works in that respect.

Like I said, I went with the Fullsac and am very satisfied with it.  Though I should say that I'm not a dyno chart chaser and can't say if one would make better numbers than the other.