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Re: Diamond Cutting Granite Cylinders and Heads?
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2012, 08:47:12 AM »

Wouldn't have expected anything less, than that type of response.............just your nature.


At least he is being honest about the whole thing, and correct at the same time .. :o
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Re: Diamond Cutting Granite Cylinders and Heads?
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2012, 09:43:58 AM »

Wouldn't have expected anything less, than that type of response.............just your nature.

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Re: Diamond Cutting Granite Cylinders and Heads?
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2012, 10:01:43 AM »

Wouldn't have expected anything less, than that type of response.............just your nature.

Don't mind at all admitting that you're right.  That is a pretty natural response to be called a liar.  You have a fine day now.
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Re: Diamond Cutting Granite Cylinders and Heads?
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2012, 10:45:46 AM »

And now, back to our regularly scheduled broadcasting.  Diamond cutting.  Yes, it can look good :2vrolijk_21: .
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Re: Diamond Cutting Granite Cylinders and Heads?
« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2012, 12:45:10 PM »

I stand in Twolanerider's corner.  He knows what he got and is only commenting on his experience with that particular vendor. What would it profit him to misrepresent his experience?  It's not like he's in competition with them providing the same service.   :nixweiss:
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Re: Diamond Cutting Granite Cylinders and Heads?
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2012, 01:43:02 PM »

For what it counts, I look forward to posts from twolanerider, I always learn something.  I feel ya brother...
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Re: Diamond Cutting Granite Cylinders and Heads?
« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2012, 02:02:46 PM »

For what it counts, I look forward to posts from twolanerider, I always learn something.  I feel ya brother...

Thanks guys.  We're all riders and we all deal with vendors; good, bad or somewhere in between they're part of our life.  For what it's worth here I'm far more interested in the original poster's question about his diamond cutting options and decisions than I'd ever be about a vendor's attitude though. 

Hillside does or doesn't have a collateral relationship with Sumax.  Doesn't matter.  Hillside does or doesn't get an alliance discount they can mark up a bit if they send work there.  Doesn't matter.  The site here is for us as riders and members.  Not the vendors.  So, writ large, the vendors don't matter.  Even when they don't realize, understand or accept it.  They certainly are occasionally a useful adjunct tool for us to have around.  But nothing more.  And as self-defending salesmen they occasionally cross the line from tool to tool.  In the case of this thread it's not about them or me though; it's about the guy with the diamond cutting question.

And, back to that, and again speaking to alternatives; if one does pursue diamond cutting one other thing to at least consider is potential options to the company that does most of that work; Diamond Heads.  It's not that their work isn't good.  It's always appeared to be.  I'm sure other shops use them and enjoy some small collateral discount they can mark up from so would like to speak in support of them also.  But they employ a policy I've always found disturbing.  Just my opinion of course.  But it's a practice I've never cared for.

The edge cutting of the cylinders and heads is a straight forward machining process.  A process many with a little skill and some practice could do.  Diamond Heads got a patent on using a Dremel (mild sarcasm intended there) and from the anecdotes we hear attempt to exercise it rather aggressively to keep other shops from offering them any competition.  I'd prefer they beat their competition by offering better service at competitive prices.  They apparently prefer to beat their competition by not allowing any. 

Some shops out there do the work quietly.  At significantly better prices.  If it's work you want done and can't find a less expensive or otherwise easier option by all means use Diamond Heads.  Sometimes there is only one pony for the trick.  Might be worth a few phone calls or private messages between members to see if you've got options though.
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Re: Diamond Cutting Granite Cylinders and Heads?
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2012, 02:17:12 PM »

Twolanerider, how durable is the powder coating, is this something that will flake after a while? or if done right worry free. And I also like that you are straight forward about your experiences with vender's :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Diamond Cutting Granite Cylinders and Heads?
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2012, 02:34:18 PM »

Twolanerider, how durable is the powder coating, is this something that will flake after a while? or if done right worry free. And I also like that you are straight forward about your experiences with vender's :2vrolijk_21:

Both my own experience and that of several others I know is that, properly done, powder coating is a good, long lasting and durable option.  The silver or black coatings that came stock generally hold up well.  Sure, we see some that fade or flake.  But they mostly do well.

For reasons not fully known Harley has had a few problems with the granite color coating.  But that seems to be getting better too.  My own experience with bike or car projects is that I like powder coating.  Even more so in recent years with all the new options for color, texture and extra gloss with multiple stage jobs and effects.

I can't tell you that the red on my 05's engine looks as good today as it did when it was new 4+ years ago.  But it does still look good.  And it will continue to look good for quite a long time.  This is on engine parts with wide heat cycles and other environmentals that make this a pretty hazardous duty environment for such efforts to stay looking good.

Nothing is forever.  Especially where cosmetic efforts are concerned.  But if you like a look there's nothing especially or excessively worrisome about a good powder coating job.  Talk to the vendor.  As I understand it there are things you'd not want to do.  The two stage effort with the clear on top that's all over my Road King frame and other parts isn't something you'd do to an engine.  So long as applications are used within their limits it's good stuff though.
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Re: Diamond Cutting Granite Cylinders and Heads?
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2012, 03:04:37 PM »

Interesting discussion going on here ::)

But anyway, got my work done over the last couple months, my builder painted my new cylinders then sent them out for diamond cutting...will have to see how the paint holds up, winter decided to show back up in Iowa now that I've got my bike back, go figure...
Picture not the best, can get better ones now that I've got bike back home if needed...
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