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Ultra Classic Garage Door Opener... again....
« on: July 05, 2012, 08:12:13 PM »

Here I am again and I am still dubbing with that '#$$#$#$%' supplied, Ultra Classic, garage door opener. I have mounted it in 3 different locations in the garage, synched it as the instructions say, and when I toggle the high/low beams the receiver makes an audible click so I know it is receiving the signal from the bike but the garage door opener will not activate. The opener is an 'Overhead Door' opener that is brand new so not an old unit.
Do any of you have any words of wisdom for me? It is not a big deal for me to just go over to the garage and use the keypad to open the door but now it is the principle of the thing that it does not work.
Your suggestions are appreciated. I have been following other posts on this and have tried, I think, all of the combinations put forth.
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Re: Ultra Classic Garage Door Opener... again....
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2012, 09:47:05 PM »

Here I am again and I am still dubbing with that '#$$#$#$%' supplied, Ultra Classic, garage door opener. I have mounted it in 3 different locations in the garage, synched it as the instructions say, and when I toggle the high/low beams the receiver makes an audible click so I know it is receiving the signal from the bike but the garage door opener will not activate. The opener is an 'Overhead Door' opener that is brand new so not an old unit.
Do any of you have any words of wisdom for me? It is not a big deal for me to just go over to the garage and use the keypad to open the door but now it is the principle of the thing that it does not work.
Your suggestions are appreciated. I have been following other posts on this and have tried, I think, all of the combinations put forth.

I'm not familiar with the Overhead Door openers, but if they are similar to the new Chamberlain and Craftsman openers they may not work with the antiquated Harley system.  The Harley system works fine with the older technology openers with simple control panels.  It won't work at all with the more complex new systems with multifunction or "smart" wall panels.  So you might want to start by calling the folks at Overhead Door to see if they are aware of a compatibility problem.


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Re: Ultra Classic Garage Door Opener... again....
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2012, 02:35:05 AM »

Mine did the exact same thing.  Reciever clicked, but door wouldn't open.  After much cursing and rechecking everything 10 times, I realized that those itty bitty toy wires from the receiver were too small to maintain contact.  Stripped off a little insulation and bent the wires back on themselves three or four times.  Works perfectly now, but the connections aren't as secure as I'd like.

Hope you find a easy fix.  Check the connections/contacts, hope it helps.

Dan
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Re: Ultra Classic Garage Door Opener... again....
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2012, 03:00:13 AM »

I had to play with the connections also... the wires are really too small to contact effectively without folding them over themselves to thicken them up like Dan did.  Once that was done mine worked like a charm!
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Re: Ultra Classic Garage Door Opener... again....
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2012, 12:01:46 PM »

The Harley door opener is really a simple device.  It just ties in to either the existing wall mount push button in the garage, or directly to the contacts on the opener.  I have an Overhead brand opener and found that with the receiver too close to the opener unit, it didn't work right.  So I installed the receiver on the header above the door (tapped in to the exterior light junction box), and ran the wires to the wall switch and it works flawlessly.  Age of the opener really shouldn't matter because all it is doing is completing a switch circuit.  I can be out on the road, toggle the headlight switch and have the door fully open and cruise right into the garage without even stopping.  Key thing to do, is to strip off extra insulation from the contact wires and wrap the wire a few turns around the contact screws of the switch (or at the opener) before tightening the contact screws.
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Re: Ultra Classic Garage Door Opener... again....
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2012, 08:18:50 PM »

Thank you all for the advice. I will be cussing at it when I start on it again in the morn and hope I am smiling when I am done. I sure try all the 'tricks' you folks have shared.
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Re: Ultra Classic Garage Door Opener... again....
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2012, 10:44:45 AM »

There was a video that showed a guy blowing his horn and his wife came out and opened the door. He said it works every time and has never broken down...
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Re: Ultra Classic Garage Door Opener... again....
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2012, 12:43:57 PM »

I think I saw that guy the other day........
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Re: Ultra Classic Garage Door Opener... again....
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2012, 02:03:59 PM »

Mine did the exact same thing.  Reciever clicked, but door wouldn't open.  After much cursing and rechecking everything 10 times, I realized that those itty bitty toy wires from the receiver were too small to maintain contact.  Stripped off a little insulation and bent the wires back on themselves three or four times.  Works perfectly now, but the connections aren't as secure as I'd like.

Hope you find a easy fix.  Check the connections/contacts, hope it helps.

Dan

Good advise.... I too will be checking on this. If I thank you in advance it should work right?   8)
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Re: Ultra Classic Garage Door Opener... again....
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2012, 07:38:22 PM »

The garage door opener is just a contact closure. Do you have another receiver hooked up already? If so, you connect two wires to the same terminals on the opener. If not, do you have a pushbutton switch that closes the door? Follow the wires to the terminals on the opener. These are the terminals that you use for the receiver. Simple test is to take a pair of long nose pliers and short the terminals and this will start the opener to close or open. If the opener will not function when you short the terminals then it is either defective or an option that needs to be activated(these terminals are hot most of time and nothing needs to be done. You said you hear the HD transmitter click when toggling the bike's lightswitch, so to check the receiver take a volt ohm meter, set it to ohm(range can be lowest setting), depending on meter-analog or digital, you should see the needle bounce or digital readout go from OL to a few ohms. Should read like a dead short, like shorting the two meter leads together. If nothing happens you know the transmitter is failing. Repeat the activation sequence for the bike and see if it works. If not then where ever you had a failure in your testing would be your culprit.
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Hope this helps
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Re: Ultra Classic Garage Door Opener... again....
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2012, 02:10:44 PM »

The garage door opener is just a contact closure. Do you have another receiver hooked up already? If so, you connect two wires to the same terminals on the opener. If not, do you have a pushbutton switch that closes the door? Follow the wires to the terminals on the opener. These are the terminals that you use for the receiver. Simple test is to take a pair of long nose pliers and short the terminals and this will start the opener to close or open. If the opener will not function when you short the terminals then it is either defective or an option that needs to be activated(these terminals are hot most of time and nothing needs to be done. You said you hear the HD transmitter click when toggling the bike's lightswitch, so to check the receiver take a volt ohm meter, set it to ohm(range can be lowest setting), depending on meter-analog or digital, you should see the needle bounce or digital readout go from OL to a few ohms. Should read like a dead short, like shorting the two meter leads together. If nothing happens you know the transmitter is failing. Repeat the activation sequence for the bike and see if it works. If not then where ever you had a failure in your testing would be your culprit.
DJ
Hope this helps


On mine I hear the receiver click as well as see the red light blink    :confused5:
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Re: Ultra Classic Garage Door Opener... again....
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2012, 08:23:49 PM »

Hey DJ
I will try to work on the process of elimination with this and see if I can find the problem. At this point I am fed up with the unit but now it is the principal of it.
Thank you for the idea.
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Re: Ultra Classic Garage Door Opener... again....
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2012, 08:54:50 PM »

I have connected my receiver directly to the opener button terminals and still does not work. The receiver 'clicks' and the opener switch actually blinks it's red light on the opener button so I have to believe it is sending a signal that far but the opener still will not open... any thoughts? HELP...
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Re: Ultra Classic Garage Door Opener... again....
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2012, 10:21:45 AM »

So just to clarify, and please correct me if I mis-read what you wrote:

1)  when you toggle the headlight switch on the bike, the Harley receiver unit clicks - (does the red light on the Harley receiver unit also blink?).

2)  the opener switch blinks it's red light on the opener button - (is this on the opener unit itself or the wall switch?)

3)  have you tried connecting the Harley receiver wires directly to the terminal board on the opener itself (not the wall switch)?

It looks to me that we are heading in the direction of a non-compatibility issue between the simple contact closure style of the Harley unit and a more complicated state of the art Overhead Door brand opener.  A friend of mine is a manager of a local Overhead Door office.  What is the model number/name and install date of the opener unit and I can do a quick check on compatibility and see if there are any solutions for you.     
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Re: Ultra Classic Garage Door Opener... again....
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2012, 02:23:47 PM »


Yes, what model opener are you using?  As I've mentioned previously, if you have one of the new style openers that only uses a two wire connection to control several different functions, the Harley system may not be compatible.  Before driving yourself to drink, or extended bouts of cussing and throwing things around the garage, it would be best to see if there is a compatibility issue that will never let that system work.  There is a very good chance that if there is a compatibility issue, the tech support folks at Overhead Door might know all about it.  Give them a call.

Some folks with the modern multifunction wall consoles have found that substituting a simple single function switch solved their problem.  Others like me just chitcanned the Harley system and use one of the regular remotes that came with the opener.  Works much better than the Harley system ever did anyway.


Jerry

Oh, btw, just because the indicator light on the receiver flashes doesn't automatically mean the output side of that unit is doing anything. 
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