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[1abastarsmda]

I get the worst of the noise if I'm riding along and just give the throttle a very slight turn and when I let off the throttle altogether.  It gets much louder with a very distinct sound.  It sounds something like one of those spinning wheels you might see in a casino if you spin it very fast.  It just goes back to the tapping sound if I pull in the clutch.  I have an appointment to have my new exhaust installed on Friday, so I think I'm going to drop it off a few days early, just in case they don't say "that's how they all sound" and want to check it out further.  I'm really hoping that it's something that remapping the bike with the EFI tuner makes it better, and then the exhaust should cover the remaining normal valve train operations.  Hopefully I'll know what I'm stuck riding with by Saturday.

[Bearcat1]

My 2012 sesg is making a tapping noise that sounds like a lifter,but when you pull the clutch in it goes away.Dealer said normal of coarse.Does your noise go away when you pull clutch in?

This is some sort of "clutch chatter" that is indeed normal in the CVO bikes.  There is an official name for it that escapes me right now and it only happens after things have heated up.  It has nothing to do with the motor valve train noise that this thread is based on.  No harm to the bike, just ride on.  It caught my attention for about 2 weeks after I bought my bike earlier this year.  Now I don't even hear it anymore...

[Willie D]

My 2012 FLSTSE3 has had this "NOISE" since the very first day, and it is still very annoying after 9500 miles.

I have changed the exhaust to a Bassani 2-1 Road Rage Long, and added Nightrider XiED's to richen up the closed loop. I has helped with the heat issue, and also has increased the torque when riding in higher gears. That being said, I took it to my dealer and ask if one of the PHD techs could take it for a ride and see if it was something to worry about . . . too my amazement they did just that, and then told me is the the "HEAT SHIELDS" on the Bassani, WTF  So I rode it home, took the HS off and guess what, the noise is still there . . . 

This is just another reason why I do NOT trust them. I do my own oil changes and tires, which I have had to replaced the rear at 8500 miles WTH.
It is interesting to hear other opinons on the very annoying issue. Guess I will ride it till it breaks. Like others have stated, it runs good 

will continue to follow this thread.

WD

Btw- still using Syn3 in all 3

[Bearcat1]

My 2012 FLSTSE3 has had this "NOISE" since the very first day, and it is still very annoying after 9500 miles.

I have changed the exhaust to a Bassani 2-1 Road Rage Long, and added Nightrider XiED's to richen up the closed loop. I has helped with the heat issue, and also has increased the torque when riding in higher gears. That being said, I took it to my dealer and ask if one of the PHD techs could take it for a ride and see if it was something to worry about . . . too my amazement they did just that, and then told me is the the "HEAT SHIELDS" on the Bassani, WTF  So I rode it home, took the HS off and guess what, the noise is still there . . . 

This is just another reason why I do NOT trust them. I do my own oil changes and tires, which I have had to replaced the rear at 8500 miles WTH.
It is interesting to hear other opinons on the very annoying issue. Guess I will ride it till it breaks. Like others have stated, it runs good 

will continue to follow this thread.

WD

Btw- still using Syn3 in all 3

Willie, do yourself a favor and get the Syn 3 out of your tranny.  Go with a good gear oil such as Royal Purple Max Gear or Redline Tranny oil with shockproof.  I just recently went to Redline in everything and so far am really happy.  They make specfic fluids for each application, 20w-50 or 20w-60 for the motor, tranny oil for the transmission and they have a blend also for the primary.  Prior to using Redline I had Mobil 1 in the motor, Royal Purple Max Gear in tranny and Harley Formula + in the primary.  A great combination in my opinion but because of the valve train noise in the motor I started looking at Redline 20w-50 because I had read where some used it with good results in quieting the engine noise some.  So I just decided to go Redline in everything and changed it this past weekend with a few miles so far and I really believe it did quiet things down some (I'd take anything at this point).  I can't say I can tell any difference from before in regards to tranny and primary but it still feels good.  So, so far so good and all I can say is all the Redline stuff is very, very slick.  I liked what I saw.  I know Harley says you can use a motor oil in the tranny but I think popular opinion is that you shouldn't.  Just sayin.

Bearcat

[Willie D]

Willie, do yourself a favor and get the Syn 3 out of your tranny.  Go with a good gear oil such as Royal Purple Max Gear or Redline Tranny oil with shockproof.  I just recently went to Redline in everything and so far am really happy.  They make specfic fluids for each application, 20w-50 or 20w-60 for the motor, tranny oil for the transmission and they have a blend also for the primary.  Prior to using Redline I had Mobil 1 in the motor, Royal Purple Max Gear in tranny and Harley Formula + in the primary.  A great combination in my opinion but because of the valve train noise in the motor I started looking at Redline 20w-50 because I had read where some used it with good results in quieting the engine noise some.  So I just decided to go Redline in everything and changed it this past weekend with a few miles so far and I really believe it did quiet things down some (I'd take anything at this point).  I can't say I can tell any difference from before in regards to tranny and primary but it still feels good.  So, so far so good and all I can say is all the Redline stuff is very, very slick.  I liked what I saw.  I know Harley says you can use a motor oil in the tranny but I think popular opinion is that you shouldn't.  Just sayin.

Bearcat


Well I used to use Mobil 1 15w50 in all of my other HD's - but because this one came with it and it felt good right away, I decided to stay with it until the warranty is up. It shifts fine and the trany is quiet. I know that most folks have switched to some form of GEAR lube and I used to use it in the trans too, but so far so good. They have also changed the formula, so for now I will go with it and change it at 5K intervals.
Thanks for your interest and the reply.
WD

[DISTURBEDCUSTOM]

HELLO I ALSO HAD THE SAME THING GOING ON WITH MY ULTRA SE WHAT I DID WAS INSTALL THE CAM PLATE WITCH GIVE YOU A TON OF OIL PRESURE AND THE NOSE GET ESS ITS STILL THERE I ALSO INSTALLED CAMS AND ROLLER ROCKERS THE BIKE SCREAMS

[1abastarsmda]

Willie, do yourself a favor and get the Syn 3 out of your tranny.  Go with a good gear oil such as Royal Purple Max Gear or Redline Tranny oil with shockproof.  I just recently went to Redline in everything and so far am really happy.  They make specfic fluids for each application, 20w-50 or 20w-60 for the motor, tranny oil for the transmission and they have a blend also for the primary.  Prior to using Redline I had Mobil 1 in the motor, Royal Purple Max Gear in tranny and Harley Formula + in the primary.  A great combination in my opinion but because of the valve train noise in the motor I started looking at Redline 20w-50 because I had read where some used it with good results in quieting the engine noise some.  So I just decided to go Redline in everything and changed it this past weekend with a few miles so far and I really believe it did quiet things down some (I'd take anything at this point).  I can't say I can tell any difference from before in regards to tranny and primary but it still feels good.  So, so far so good and all I can say is all the Redline stuff is very, very slick.  I liked what I saw.  I know Harley says you can use a motor oil in the tranny but I think popular opinion is that you shouldn't.  Just sayin.

Bearcat

I ran Mobil 1 in the engine, redline in the tranny and primary on my 09.  I won't run the Redline in the primary again in my new bike.  As soon as I put it in, I started having what seemed to be slipping problems.  I never mentioned it to anyone, and then my friend has the 2011.5 SEUC and he just mentioned to me the other day that ever since he added that to the primary, his clutch is slipping.  I don't know if it's actually slipping or what it is, but it sure felt different and not in a good way.  Just sayin....

[DDavidson]

This was posted by user jfh.
   
http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=44545.75

Re: Feuling 574 Cam in a 110"
« Reply #76 on: August 08, 2010, 08:24:31 PM »
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Dan,

I had the sewing machine ticking in the 2800-3200 range and completely eliminated it by replacing the pistons and jugs with proper fitting pieces from Axtell.

Good luck with yours.
John

[Maladjusted]

Dan,

I had the sewing machine ticking in the 2800-3200 range and completely eliminated it by replacing the pistons and jugs with proper fitting pieces from Axtell.

Good luck with yours.
John

Axtell only offers the 110 cyls in black?  bummer.

[hbens]

This is some sort of "clutch chatter" that is indeed normal in the CVO bikes.  There is an official name for it that escapes me right now and it only happens after things have heated up.  It has nothing to do with the motor valve train noise that this thread is based on.  No harm to the bike, just ride on.  It caught my attention for about 2 weeks after I bought my bike earlier this year.  Now I don't even hear it anymore...

There is a technical service bulletin on this issue. In short, it is accumulative tollerances stacking up in the transmission. Unless there are broken teeth and stuff there isn't anything you can do about it. Attached is a PDF of the TSB.

On the other rattle noise, mine also does this. I can almost make it happen at will between 2200-2800 rpms with a light to medium accelleration. If you put more juice to her the rattle stops.
Needless to say I don't like it and wish it wasn't there. When I put new pistons in (SE 10.5) I hope to find something.

[Bearcat1]

I ran Mobil 1 in the engine, redline in the tranny and primary on my 09.  I won't run the Redline in the primary again in my new bike.  As soon as I put it in, I started having what seemed to be slipping problems.  I never mentioned it to anyone, and then my friend has the 2011.5 SEUC and he just mentioned to me the other day that ever since he added that to the primary, his clutch is slipping.  I don't know if it's actually slipping or what it is, but it sure felt different and not in a good way.  Just sayin....

Good to know but so far so good for me on the Redline products.  Shifts good, clutches good and seemed to quiet the engine noise a bit.  Still hear the engine noise some but it did tone it down a bit.  I'll run the 20w-50 with fall and winter coming on and then next summer I think I am going to try the 20w-60 with the south Texas heat.

What would you happen to be using in your primary now?  Just curious.

[hbens]

I'll chime in with what I use.
Redline ShockProof in the Xmsn and Redline Primary oil in the primary.
In the crankcase I'm using Mobile 1 20w-50 because I bought a case of it for $7 each.
I will always use the Redline ShockProof in the tranny. It seems to shift quieter without any clunking noises.
I typically buy enough product to do 2 or 3 fluid changes at the same time so I don't have to make special trips to change the oil.

[1abastarsmda]

Good to know but so far so good for me on the Redline products.  Shifts good, clutches good and seemed to quiet the engine noise a bit.  Still hear the engine noise some but it did tone it down a bit.  I'll run the 20w-50 with fall and winter coming on and then next summer I think I am going to try the 20w-60 with the south Texas heat.

What would you happen to be using in your primary now?  Just curious.

I only have 650 miles on it and it's at the shop getting the exhaust changed out, so it's still the SYN3 in there for now.  Going forward, I'll figure that out when the time comes to change it.  I'm letting the shop do the 1000 mile on it next week and then I'll take over from there.  I want to make sure everything is good before I start doing the regular maintenance.

[clubbie]

Well the motor tapping noise had me going nuts for ages. Unfortunately (actualy fortunately) I was breath tested and given a defect notice for loud pipes (VH 2:1). I had to get the bike inspected so off came the pipes and the heavy breather.

Low and behold my tapping noise has gone. The racket coming from the top end is now nearly silent. Doing a bit of research it seems that I could hear the intake clack clack through the heavy breather and the exhaust tapping though the 2:1 pipes.

So now I am stuck the bike has lost quite a bit of tq/hp but the motor is silent (still has 10.5 and 259's). Change the head pipes and I expect the exhaust tapping to start again. Change the intake and I expect to hear the intake valves snaping closed again. Not scientific just forced to go back to stock.

The result for me is that I will put the AC and 2:1 (working on a modded baffle) back on the bike and put up with the noise and be confident in the knowledge that I am hearing my motor in all it's loud clack clack tap tap noise.

[1abastarsmda]

I dropped my bike off at the dealer today.  The service manager heard what I am hearing.  One of the techs came over to me and told me he heard it loud and clear and told me not to worry about it...he'll fix it.  So, I'm keeping my fingers crossed.  They sounded pretty confident that they could get rid of all that racket.  I have to wonder if all of you folks are hearing the same thing that I hear on mine.  It's pretty bad.  I also took a stethoscope to it and it seemed like it was coming from the upper part of the rear cylinder and the lower part of the front cylinder.  That part was bit baffling.  I'm hoping to hear something positive from the shop some time this week.  Again, mine is so bad that while riding down the highway, my friends can hear the tapping on my bike when they ride near me on theirs.  This is my second 110" and the other one never made this kind of noise.