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[zer0t]

Why do a 120R if this has a better bottom end, more power and only a couple hundred bucks more?  This may solve my 110" problem for less than I thought.  I guess I'd have to swap the tranny to get rid of the CVO granite with the black only motor, eh?

[guppytrash]

Why do a 120R if this has a better bottom end, more power and only a couple hundred bucks more?  This may solve my 110" problem for less than I thought. 

I am curious if this is correct?  I read somewhere that the S&S uses timken bearings and I just assumed S&S was a better bottom end than a 120r also.

I would agree with zer0t, this makes the S&S the obvious buy over the 120R but I would like to hear from some more knowledgeable than me.

Just to check on what is in the fine print to make sure we are not overlooking some facts.

[zer0t]

I read on the website that it has the timken bearing.  I've heard from a reputable guy the S&S bottom end is stout.

I found this on the link to the motor.

Benefits of S&S 124" Engine vs the SE120R

4 cubes
EZ Start cams
Timken Sleeve and Timken Left Main Bearing
Better Oil Pump - cooler temperatures, 83% more scavenge
Adjustable Pushrods
Roller Rocker Arms
1 year warranty

[Zinister]

I think at this price i would go S&S way before the 120R.

Wonder how long before HD raises hell about this motor competing with the 120?

[guppytrash]

I think at this price i would go S&S way before the 120R.

Wonder how long before HD raises hell about this motor competing with the 120?

Exactly what I was thinking on both points.

[zer0t]

I saw it for 7995 without throttle body. You can get a 66mm from s&s for about 550 with yours as a core. This is a serious consideration.

Now I'm wondering if I keep or sell my 110. I'm thinking keep it cause it ain't worth much and for resale I can swap it back in.

[GMR-PERFORMANCE]

The engine is right on par with the SE 120 "IF" you are paying retail for the SE engine. Walk in customers have a better shot at getting a deal on the SE engine at discount than shops do, but that is another story. There are a few dealers out there taking care of the shops but not many.

The S&S engine is a very nice unit. Zer0t, if this is a direction you are looking at. Easy fix on the trans take it apart, most areas have some one that will powder coat. We have a small oven and can get parts up to rims in it. Simple really for your set up.

Cost wise the 124 has a retail price of 6295. Add in the 66 MM t/b and the S&S 66 MM backing plate and air cleaner, a bandit clutch, injectors, tuner, good ex and you are ready to go.

[bowtech40]

  I have been reading this post with interest, and thought I would chime in. The 124 uses SE cases, and has a much better crank assembly and the timken bearing. I have a few friends that have the 120R that ride hard, and I can say they have never had any crank issues as of yet, and the standard lefty bearing seems to be holding up also. The G2 126 is a different animal all together. It uses SA cases which are huge and beefy, and also has a longer pinion shaft to compansate for the big cases. I have seen one, and they look tough as nails for a touring bike.
    As far as putting one in a 06 and newer chassis, it can and is being done at Star Racing. All you need is an older 5 speed and complete primary set up, and it will drop right in. I spoke with Derrick on the phone about this, and they have 2 being done in the shop now. They can supply you with short exhast adapters so you can cut and fit the exhaust of your choice, and they have intakes also. I was going to do this myself on my 07 117, but traded on the skunk instead. Now I have the bike that caught my eye, but am going from 137/139 back to a turd!!  Having been down the road of doing a few 117`s, I know how expensive it can get. My only thought on the 124 and the SE cases is that I had my 117 pull the cylinder studs out of the rear cylinder costing me another set of cases I am sure and was told buy a few that it could have been due to a bad heat treat on the cases, because the new ones worked like a champ until I traded.

[HD Street Performance]

Generally speaking IME there are a lot happier guys that have bought either 120r or S&S 124" motors than the built it 117. I have reasons why but won't bore anyone with that. The 124 will make 130 out of the box and needs no "clean up". No clean up and the warranty remains intact. They are set to a conservative state at that level and will run very far reliably if they are maintained and not flogged too hard.

[Zinister]

Please bore me, I was going the 117 route with my 110 in a couple years

[HD Street Performance]

The cost is close to the same after the stock 3/8" crank is reworked with decent rods and with these late models a 4.625" SE or S&S crank is superior.
The S&S 124" cylinder and matching pistons are longer spigot than most of the 117" offerings and stable. The HD 120r piston and cylinder package is also very stable and long lasting.
Longevity, power and value, simple as that.

[Hog95023]

I need one of these in my bike!!!!!  What injectors were used

[kcbike]

S&S has 124 for 07 and up. not in new catalog just call and ask. i talked to them at cincy dealer show. as long as they don't run out of harley cases they can make you one

[Ohio HD]

Nice one!     

[HILLSIDECYCLE.COM]

We are setting one in a chassis in the next few days.
Scott