Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[ultrafxr]

Thanks Scott.

[ultrafxr]

sounds pretty much like cam bearing 

I hope to know something today.

[Twolanerider]

Just saw this Jerry.  Sorry you're dealing with the problem.  Glad you got out of traffic without incident.  That's not always a given.   

[ultrafxr]

Just saw this Jerry.  Sorry you're dealing with the problem.  Glad you got out of traffic without incident.  That's not always a given.   

Thanks Don. You are so right about that.

[HILLSIDECYCLE.COM]

Thanks Scott.

Your welcome.
Scott

[ultrafxr]

Stopped by today to visit with the tech and the service manager about what happened to the engine in my '07 cuse2.  The root cause of the problem was properly diagnosed on this forum by . . . . drum roll please  -  kraut who said (and I quote) 'sounds pretty much like cam bearing.'  And that is what it was but the damage caused was very, very extensive.  So much so that the engine is totally (and I do mean totally) trashed. 

Photos to follow.

[ultrafxr]

Here's my baby on the operating table with her guts removed:



Hmmm, that chit in the bottom of the cam chest certainly does not look good.  Wonder where it came from?



Oh there it is.  Note the front cam bearing (or rather where it should be).  No the tech did not remove it.  Part of it is what you saw in the previous photo.  Note how the hole for the bearing is wallowed out.  Look at the outboard lifter bore.  It is gouged up pretty good.  So the case is toast.



Here is what is left of the cam bearing race.  Ouch!



When all this chit hit the fan the valve train got so out of alignment that it bent the pushrod.  Yikes!



Here is what is left of the front cylinder lifters.  What more can I say?

[Twolanerider]

Since you're broke down anyway that's all a good thing though Jerry.  Just means no questions at all about a factory reman job rather than work done in the shop.

[Fullsac Performance]

I think the lifter was the beginning failure in the chain reaction of broken parts.

SG

[GtreetSlide]

reminds me of when my cam chain self destructed taking out cams cam plate oil pump etc. The mechanic said hold out your hand into which he poured the individual links of my cam chain which was now a handfull of tiny pieces.... "Never seen one come completely apart like that before" he said....

I'd say time for a newmotor... might as well get a 120 or something close....

[sadunbar]

I suspect the bottom of your pistons look like they were hit with shotgun blast....  

[Twolanerider]

Keep thinking about your ruined engine Jerry.  So glad that if it failed it did so within the ESP program limits.  But it's the details that bother.

You ride a lot.  But it's the kind of riding that's as easy on the engine as any riding is going to be.  A lot of cruising, less town, little or no hot rodding.  And yet despite being an almost ideal rider (for longevity's sake) and being a rider who is attentive to maintenance and riding an engine that was already a factory supplied replacement (with whatever connotations that might suggest) the engine last 60,000 miles.  Just 60,000.

This from an ostensibly modern manufacturer firmly ensconced in the standards of the 21st century American automotive industry.  Were the failure actually a shock for its uncommon nature we might be a bit relieved.  That its actually but a more dramatic case of the recognized and all too common failures just makes you hang your head.

[ultrafxr]

Keep thinking about your ruined engine Jerry.  So glad that if it failed it did so within the ESP program limits.  But it's the details that bother.

You ride a lot.  But it's the kind of riding that's as easy on the engine as any riding is going to be.  A lot of cruising, less town, little or no hot rodding.  And yet despite being an almost ideal rider (for longevity's sake) and being a rider who is attentive to maintenance and riding an engine that was already a factory supplied replacement (with whatever connotations that might suggest) the engine last 60,000 miles.  Just 60,000.

This from an ostensibly modern manufacturer firmly esconsed in the standards of the 21st century American automotive industry.  Were the failure actually a shock for its uncommon nature we might be a bit relieved.  That its actually but a more dramatic case of the recognized and all too common failures just makes you hang your head.

You are so right Don.  In fact I was thinking the very same thing - unfortunately I just do not have confidence in the longevity of these Harley motors.  The tech thinks that the valve springs in the stock 110s are too strong and put too much stress on the valve train making them more prone to failure of the cam bearings and lifters. 

[HILLSIDECYCLE.COM]

Here's my baby on the operating table with her guts removed:



Hmmm, that chit in the bottom of the cam chest certainly does not look good.  Wonder where it came from?



Oh there it is.  Note the front cam bearing (or rather where it should be).  No the tech did not remove it.  Part of it is what you saw in the previous photo.  Note how the hole for the bearing is wallowed out.  Look at the outboard lifter bore.  It is gouged up pretty good.  So the case is toast.



Here is what is left of the cam bearing race.  Ouch!



When all this chit hit the fan the valve train got so out of alignment that it bent the pushrod.  Yikes!



Here is what is left of the front cylinder lifters.  What more can I say?

Looks like the lifter bore is fubared as well.
Scott

[eleft36]

I have to believe this engine made a lot of grinding/scraping sounds for a long while before it's death.

Al