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[hdaliaconis]

I've never seen a report on the margin of error for the speed calculation, but the standard margin of error for civilian GPS for location, according to the Defense Department, is about eight meters. 

Jerry

So, let's assume that it can be 8 meters plus or minus and 8 meters is about 25 feet (more or less).  2 X 25 = 50 feet. That comes to about 1% of a mile.  If there is no cumulative effect the GPS should/could be a more accurate indication of speed.  Please check my math.  I'm not what I used to be.   

[Bretto]

As for the fuel gauge, glad you don't give a f$%* (or two).  Obviously a lot of other people do, or the several threads on the site bitching about the gauge wouldn't exist.  Oh, btw, I forgot in my last post to mention reason number three.  Running out of gas and stalling while running down the road is also a safety issue.  Try it in the middle lane of a packed freeway running at high speed some day.  If you survive the experience, perhaps then you will give a f$%* about a lousy fuel gauge.

Jerry

Jerry if your in the above situation and you dont know how much fuel you have left and relying on a light to tell you when you need to refuel... Seems unrealistic to me unless you stumble through life with no planning or forethought.   

[hdaliaconis]

 

[grc]

Jerry if your in the above situation and you dont know how much fuel you have left and relying on a light to tell you when you need to refuel... Seems unrealistic to me unless you stumble through life with no planning or forethought.   

Why are you so eager to bash folks who expect their Harley to actually work properly?  If you are happy letting Milwaukee bend you over, so be it.  That doesn't mean everyone else should follow your lead.  In the real world, as opposed to the world of Harley, fuel gauges are calibrated to be slightly pessimistic (read slightly lower than reality at the low end).  Doing it the other way is a problem.  Why let Harley do it to you? 

Jerry

[skullplant]

Why are you so eager to bash folks who expect their Harley to actually work properly?  If you are happy letting Milwaukee bend you over, so be it.  That doesn't mean everyone else should follow your lead.  In the real world, as opposed to the world of Harley, fuel gauges are calibrated to be slightly pessimistic (read slightly lower than reality at the low end).  Doing it the other way is a problem.  Why let Harley do it to you? 

Jerry

Agreed!! That being said, has anyone ever brought a fuel gauge problem to the MOCO and actually had someone do something about it? I've had fuel gauge inaccuracies a number of times. Always get the same old "they're all like that". Maybe I'm not persistent enough, but I've always grown tired of waiting for answers and just dealt with it.

[murphy]

You pay through the nose for add ons like low fuel lights, the biggest problem I see is folks who don't stand up and say "your stuff is crap, make sure it works or don't charge me extra for it!"...

Wouldn't you complain about your Big Mac if it was missing the "special sauce" or if it was not up to par?

[hdaliaconis]

Most likely if you are interested in improving the product the complains need to go to customer service at the corporate level.  The dealer is measured on sales and revenue not being our ambassadors.  I know that they represent the MOCO but bottom line comes first.  They didn't engineer the products.  They have to live with it and service it even though they don't have answers that make us happy.  I'm not defending the dealerships it's just the real world. JMO

[kb1]

This is obviously a defect and needs to be recalled mine did exactly the same

[Bretto]

Do we really expect a recall? I doubt it.

Yes I would love a perfect fuel gauge but in this case my concern is people relying on a gauge before having any thought that they made need fuel in the next XXXkms/miles. What did we do in the ole days before fuel gauges...

[clembo]

My gas gauge showed two bars - half full. As I rode out of my driveway and down the road the bike started to sputter. I stopped and made it back home. Tank was dry.

I guess I should have tracked the miles per tank, but I trust the gauges on new bikes and don't do that anymore.

I am taking the bike in tonight for pipes and a tuner, I'll have them look at it. Has anyone else had a problem?

[Nicky Pass]

I think the last bar is nothing.  When I get to 2 bars, I usually just fill up. 

[Fired00d]

My gas gauge showed two bars - half full. As I rode out of my driveway and down the road the bike started to sputter. I stopped and made it back home. Tank was dry.

I guess I should have tracked the miles per tank, but I trust the gauges on new bikes and don't do that anymore.

I am taking the bike in tonight for pipes and a tuner, I'll have them look at it. Has anyone else had a problem?

I merged your thread w/an existing thread regarding this issue you may want to read the previous posts concerning this topic.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[CowboyBagger]

I'm not sure they make one for the Breakout, but I put Dakota Digital gauges on my FLHXSE3 and after calibration, the fuel gauge is dead on accurate.  The stock gauge was off by more than a gallon and hard to see to boot.

Cowboy

[KLB0]

Mine seems to be spot on.  I only know this because of some miscalculations on solo rides on unknown roads.  I found myself 12 miles into the last bar, trip computer saying only 25 miles left and I put 4.25 gal in the tank.  This is my first motorcycle with a gauge and still won't rely on it completely. 

[BeeCVOBreakOut]

My warning light comes on with about 30 or so miles left on the range...depending on how much fuel the bike is consuming at the time due to load and speed. I've had a theory beaten into me from my military days: Always top off when fuel is made available.